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Nissan Navara SUV still under consideration for Australia, but not a priority

Nissan Australia is still interested in offering an off-roader based on the Navara ute, though itís not at the top of the companyís wish list.



Richard Emery, managing director and CEO of Nissanís local arm, told CarAdvice at the launch of the updated X-Trail range that a Ford Everest rival is still under consideration, though itís not a prime focus for the brand.

ďIt would be a consideration for us,Ē he said. ďItís not a key focus. In terms of potentially what that vehicle could offer, [it] might not suit Australian circumstances.Ē

ďWeíre interested but itís certainly not a live project for Australia,Ē he added.



Such a model would fill the void left by the previous-generation Pathfinder and Patrol, which offered serious off-road ability for around $50,000-$70,000.

Nowadays, the ute-based SUV segment is occupied by newcomers like the Everest, Mitsubishi Pajero Sport and the Toyota Fortuner.

The upcoming Nissan Navara-based off-roader has been spied in pre-production gyuse over the last year, wearing heavy camouflage to conceal its tall and boxy wagon body.

Itís expected to make its debut sometime later this year or early next, and will likely utilise components from the ute such as a five-link rear suspension system, a 130kW/450Nm 2.3-litre twin-turbo diesel engine, and a dual-range 4◊4 system.

Itís been a few years now since the previous-generation Pathfinder was on sale in Australia, meaning buyers wanting a crew-hauling Nissan with proper off-road capability need to look at a Navara ute or stretch to $69,990 for the Y62 Patrol Ė which is offered exclusively with a V8 petrol engine.
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They're crazy if they don't. Every other ute manufacturer except Mazda and VW have an offering in the cheap wagon category.

That said if they just heave a modern diesel into the Patrol - Renault probably have something suitable, or Nissan have an arrangement with Cummins to provide engines in the US market - they'd be on a sales winner. Toyota's Land Cruiser 200 is old, overpriced, and doesn't enjoy a sterling reputation.
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Nissan Australia is still interested in offering an off-roader based on the Navara ute, though itís not at the top of the companyís wish list.



Richard Emery, managing director and CEO of Nissanís local arm, told CarAdvice at the launch of the updated X-Trail range that a Ford Everest rival is still under consideration, though itís not a prime focus for the brand.

ďIt would be a consideration for us,Ē he said. ďItís not a key focus. In terms of potentially what that vehicle could offer, [it] might not suit Australian circumstances.Ē

ďWeíre interested but itís certainly not a live project for Australia,Ē he added.



Such a model would fill the void left by the previous-generation Pathfinder and Patrol, which offered serious off-road ability for around $50,000-$70,000.

Nowadays, the ute-based SUV segment is occupied by newcomers like the Everest, Mitsubishi Pajero Sport and the Toyota Fortuner.

The upcoming Nissan Navara-based off-roader has been spied in pre-production gyuse over the last year, wearing heavy camouflage to conceal its tall and boxy wagon body.

Itís expected to make its debut sometime later this year or early next, and will likely utilise components from the ute such as a five-link rear suspension system, a 130kW/450Nm 2.3-litre twin-turbo diesel engine, and a dual-range 4◊4 system.

Itís been a few years now since the previous-generation Pathfinder was on sale in Australia, meaning buyers wanting a crew-hauling Nissan with proper off-road capability need to look at a Navara ute or stretch to $69,990 for the Y62 Patrol Ė which is offered exclusively with a V8 petrol engine.
I doubt it would utilise the five-link suspension mentioned above, this would be a step backwards from the independent suspension of the phased out Pathfinder.

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Normally 5 link suspension is used to describe multi link solid axles, somewhat confusingly the term can be applied for independent rear suspension in certain configurations.

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I doubt it would utilise the five-link suspension mentioned above, this would be a step backwards from the independent suspension of the phased out Pathfinder.

The "phased out" Pathfinder had a live rear axle.

The current Pathfinder is all independent, and is still on sale, although is no longer a 4WD.

This wagon is to sit below or alongside that car to compete with the MU-X, Trailblazer, Pajero Sport, and Fortuner.
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Sorry I should have been clearer, as that is what I meant, the current Pathfinder on independant rear suspension is the phased out truck- has not been built or supplied for a couple of years now. I think the actual media report is misleading as it looks to say the all new Pathfinder SUV will have the same rear suspension as the NP300, which is an old solid/live axle on coil springs. If it actually is the case, then the new truck is basically an Xterra as sold in the US.
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Sorry I should have been clearer, as that is what I meant, the current Pathfinder on independant rear suspension is the phased out truck- has not been built or supplied for a couple of years now. I think the actual media report is misleading as it looks to say the all new Pathfinder SUV will have the same rear suspension as the NP300, which is an old solid/live axle on coil springs. If it actually is the case, then the new truck is basically an Xterra as sold in the US.
Just hoping my version Pathy won't be the last of the ladder chassis version.


Sorry buddy I think I got confused.

In the Aus market, which is what the story refers to, the R51 Pathfinder (with a live, but coil-sprung, rear axle) was phased out three years ago.

The R52 has been available since 2014 and is a monocoque, all-independent SUV only sold here in 2WD, but is available in AWD elsewhere. Maybe it was here briefly, I can't remember. I

The wagon described here is to basically replace the R51, where it would probably be sold alongside the existing R52, and possibly using the Terrano nameplate which hasn't sold here in some years.

In our market the Pathfinder is now pitched as a "family SUV" against the Mazda CX-9, Toyota Kluger/Highlander and the like.

If you want a Nissan off-road wagon you must stretch for the Y62 Patrol, which is (a) expensive (Discovery expensive) and (b) petrol only, which shouldn't matter but does. This competes against Toyota's Landcruiser 200 and not much else. Maybe the Land Rover Discovery or VW Touareg but buyers of these latter two aren't really 4WDers.

Meanwhile the market is going nuts for low-cost, but off-road capable, utility-based wagons. These are invariably independent front, live coil rear vehicles around $40k based on the parent company's utility competitor. So we have the Mitsubishi Challenger/Pajero Sport, Isuzu MU-X, GM Trailblazer, Ford Everest (and soon Bronco), Toyota Fortuner, and now potentially the Pathfinder/Terrano.

The only ute manufacturers without a wagon are Nissan (for now), Mazda and VW.
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