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 Post subject: Re: Diff/Gearbox oil change
PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 10:15 pm 
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Both types are acceptable, that is clearly mentioned but there is no instruction to use a specific type of oil depending on the usage as you claim… or is it your own personal recommendations?
TX transfer boxes are used on other Nissan models, for example Terrano, which comes with auto and manual transmission and transfer oil type is like I explain earlier and reason for that is also as explained and this a common knowledge for anyone deals with 4WD machines (not only in Nissan). I had a few leaks from transfer/transmission joint area and the fact oil type was different helped with easy finding the cause and repair it.
In the automotive industry it is common to add color for easy leaking identification.. They do it with gear oil, engine oil, coolant and so on. So no one built his vehicle to leak but they sure making it easy for us mechanics to find the leak source when they eventually do leaks.
It is also common mechanics knowledge not to mix oil types. If it comes from factory with DEXRON, stick with this type as long as the transfer running fine.


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 Post subject: Re: Diff/Gearbox oil change
PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 12:54 pm 
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GreaseDonkey wrote:
Both types are acceptable, that is clearly mentioned but there is no instruction to use a specific type of oil depending on the usage as you claim… or is it your own personal recommendations?
TX transfer boxes are used on other Nissan models, for example Terrano, which comes with auto and manual transmission and transfer oil type is like I explain earlier and reason for that is also as explained and this a common knowledge for anyone deals with 4WD machines (not only in Nissan). I had a few leaks from transfer/transmission joint area and the fact oil type was different helped with easy finding the cause and repair it.
In the automotive industry it is common to add color for easy leaking identification.. They do it with gear oil, engine oil, coolant and so on. So no one built his vehicle to leak but they sure making it easy for us mechanics to find the leak source when they eventually do leaks.
It is also common mechanics knowledge not to mix oil types. If it comes from factory with DEXRON, stick with this type as long as the transfer running fine.


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 Post subject: Re: Diff/Gearbox oil change
PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 5:45 pm 
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Thank you for your response mate and I glad to know you are keeping an open mind. :-)


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 Post subject: Re: Diff/Gearbox oil change
PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2012 3:26 pm 
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All cool with the types and quantities but can you post up where you got it all from Woz, cause i'm havin trouble finding anything other than the Dexron II. :thumbright:


wozizname wrote:
Hi Bounce :)
Done exactly this job last weekend so have the info :clappy:
Front axle SAE 140W API GL-5 (2 1/4 pints req'd). I couldn't get a straight 140W grade but put in SAE 85W/140 grade.
Transmission SAE 75W/85 API GL-4 (8 5/8 pints req'd).
Transfer box DEXRON ATF III automatic transmission fluid API GL-4 (2 quarts).
Rear axle Hypoid LSD oil API GL-5 (2 1/4 pints).

DO NOT USE GL-4 in GL-5 and visa-versa where recommended as this will damage these units :!:
I found the front axle, gearbox and transfer box oils in good condition after 70K miles but the rear LSD oil was VERY black and burnt. This LSD oil should be changed every 36K miles BTW :shock: Also do not use any of these so called 'oil modifiers' to change gear oils into LSD oil as they're a load of shite IMO, get the right oil for the job :thumbright:

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 Post subject: Re: Diff/Gearbox oil change
PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 3:45 pm 
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If you look up Comma oils website www.commaoil.com and use their product finder tab, you can enter your vehicles reg and get all the products suitable for that vehicle. It doesnt list all the oils for a Nav but is still a usefull quick reference. Ive used it for several cars etc just as a quick check. Also Ive never had any complaints about their oils, ran many cars on it trouble free.


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 Post subject: Re: Diff/Gearbox oil change
PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 10:53 pm 
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owenpoweredaccess wrote:
If you look up Comma oils website http://www.commaoil.com and use their product finder tab, you can enter your vehicles reg and get all the products suitable for that vehicle. It doesnt list all the oils for a Nav but is still a usefull quick reference. Ive used it for several cars etc just as a quick check. Also Ive never had any complaints about their oils, ran many cars on it trouble free.

X2 :thumbleft:
Also Carlube do oils to service and match the specs for your truck here http://www.carlube.co.uk
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 Post subject: Re: Diff/Gearbox oil change
PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:01 am 
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wozizname wrote:
Hi Bounce :)
Done exactly this job last weekend so have the info :clappy:
Front axle SAE 140W API GL-5 (2 1/4 pints req'd). I couldn't get a straight 140W grade but put in SAE 85W/140 grade.
Transmission SAE 75W/85 API GL-4 (8 5/8 pints req'd).
Transfer box DEXRON ATF III automatic transmission fluid API GL-4 (2 quarts).
Rear axle Hypoid LSD oil API GL-5 (2 1/4 pints).

DO NOT USE GL-4 in GL-5 and visa-versa where recommended as this will damage these units :!:
I found the front axle, gearbox and transfer box oils in good condition after 70K miles but the rear LSD oil was VERY black and burnt. This LSD oil should be changed every 36K miles BTW :shock: Also do not use any of these so called 'oil modifiers' to change gear oils into LSD oil as they're a load of shite IMO, get the right oil for the job :thumbright:

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My motor factors supplied me with GL-4 semi synth 75w 90 for my transfer (54 plate), no mention of dexron ar ATF on the bottle? Is that ok as its the same thing that comes up on the comma site?

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 Post subject: Re: Diff/Gearbox oil change
PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:31 am 
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Gaz
The g/box and transfer box are seperate units.
That oil is for the g/box, Dexron goes into the tranfer box.

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 Post subject: Re: Diff/Gearbox oil change
PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:38 am 
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gazthekiller wrote:
wozizname wrote:
Hi Bounce :)
Done exactly this job last weekend so have the info :clappy:
Front axle SAE 140W API GL-5 (2 1/4 pints req'd). I couldn't get a straight 140W grade but put in SAE 85W/140 grade.
Transmission SAE 75W/85 API GL-4 (8 5/8 pints req'd).
Transfer box DEXRON ATF III automatic transmission fluid API GL-4 (2 quarts).
Rear axle Hypoid LSD oil API GL-5 (2 1/4 pints).

DO NOT USE GL-4 in GL-5 and visa-versa where recommended as this will damage these units :!:
I found the front axle, gearbox and transfer box oils in good condition after 70K miles but the rear LSD oil was VERY black and burnt. This LSD oil should be changed every 36K miles BTW :shock: Also do not use any of these so called 'oil modifiers' to change gear oils into LSD oil as they're a load of shite IMO, get the right oil for the job :thumbright:

Woz


Woz
My motor factors supplied me with GL-4 semi synth 75w 90 for my transfer (54 plate), no mention of dexron ar ATF on the bottle? Is that ok as its the same thing that comes up on the comma site?


I used the same grade in my transfer box, I tow a 4 wheel trailer a lot, and went for the extra heavy duty protection of a proper gear oil rather than an ATF based lubricant.
The workshop manual states either type can be used.
My thinking was that there are no gears as such that require changing so a thicker oil won't affect driveability.
I used GL4/5 fully synthetic in the gearbox, made it much smoother and slicker on the changes.

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 Post subject: Re: Diff/Gearbox oil change
PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:42 am 
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Thanks guys, just confused me as the comma site only suggesting the gl4 oil for the transfer box and no suggestions for the gearbox at all!

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