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post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old 07-09-19, 05:48 AM Thread Starter
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Hey guys,
New to the navara scene, joined up here looking to learn a bit.
Am currently tossing up between the D22 and D40 (both 2013) and can get the D22 for a few grand cheaper than the D40 (in Aussie dollars). Trying to weigh up wether the extra bit of power and luxury is worth that extra bit of money so doing as much reading as I can. We will ultimately be towing a van and travelling around Australia (just the two of us) So it won't be a Maaaaasive van but probably around 2tonne.
Anyone else here towing a van with a D22?
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Welcome to the forum!

I hope we can guide you to the right decision for you. For what you describe, I think a D40 is a much better fit for you than the D22 - itís much better at towing and is easily twice as comfortable inside. (For overseas readers, both the D22 and D40 were sold at the same time here, with both being replaced by the D23 in 2015.)
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Iv'e heard that the D40 is much more capable at towing than the D22. If it was up to me I would go for the D40 regardless.
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Cheers guys. Looking forward to learning from the forum regardless. Leaning towards the d22 simply because I can do a lot of extras and upgrades including performance upgrades and still come in under the price of a d40 but will see how I go on Monday.

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Cheers guys. Looking forward to learning from the forum regardless. Leaning towards the d22 simply because I can do a lot of extras and upgrades including performance upgrades and still come in under the price of a d40 but will see how I go on Monday.

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Try and get a drive in both. The D22 is a solid machine, but Iíd not want to be towing 2 tonnes with it on any kind of hill.
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Try and get a drive in both. The D22 is a solid machine, but Iíd not want to be towing 2 tonnes with it on any kind of hill.
Even with power upgrades that would bring it into line with the d40?

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They both have the same engine, just various different states of tune.I don't think even the lowest power engine will struggle with a 2t load.
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They both have the same engine, just various different states of tune.I don't think even the lowest power engine will struggle with a 2t load.


Depending on age, about half Aussie D22s were fitted with the ZD30DDT, and of the 2.5s, there were some that used the TD25 in lieu of the later YD25. (The YD25 was much more common, I canít even find a TD25 on Carsales.)

The YD25 fitted to the D22 was in a lower state of tune than in the D40, partly to justify the price difference and partly because the D22 retained the driveline components of the earlier engines. However, thatís not the only difference between the two - the D40 has a substantially wider track and longer wheelbase, a better transmission, better suspension, and is the pick of the two for towing out of the box.

Yes, a D22 can tow 2.5 tonnes, but the Australian context of towing differs from the European one - much longer distances, much poorer surfaces, generally single lane roads where being unable to maintain highway speeds will have double or triple trailer road trains riding your tailgate and commenting on your ancestry on the CB.

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post #9 of 11 (permalink) Old 09-09-19, 10:25 AM Thread Starter
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Hey guys thanks for all the feedback. We spent the day today test driving a bunch of d40's and d22's and before I say how we settled I thought I'd give my thoughts.
All the d40s had injector rattle, even the ones that had done under 100,000km. This alone was enough to scare me off after how much trouble Toyota owners had with injectors. Don't want to go down that path.
Much preferred the D22 transmission. I don't particularly like autos and the manual on the d40 was loose and vague. The D22 I knew what gear I was in and when.
Noise - once again d22 won. Had a bit more road noise in the d22 (which may have been the tyres) but the d40 injector rattle would drive me completely crazy after a day.
Power - d40 wins hands down no contest.
Comfort - I'm going to go against the norm and say I prefer the d22. Perhaps because me and my wife are both short the d40 felt enourmous. I felt no real difference between the seats after 40 minutes in each car. The D40 is more refined for sure but I've driven enough cars to know that once you own it you stop looking at the fancy dials and switches.
Ride - yep the suspension on the d40 is softer which makes it feel wishy washy, suspension on the d22 is rock hard so you feel every bump.
Tech - I like that the d22 is low tech. Less things to go wrong but I do like the d40 stock sound system....

What did I buy?

The car I bought was a 2012 D22 that had travelled 119,000km. One owner (retired guy who clearly looks after his stuff, not a spec of dust anywhere on the car). Had factory snorkel, tow kit, arb bullbar, driving lights and is wired up for a car fridge.
Both cars I would have changed suspension on and I've picked up a second hand canopy for $100
Ultimately I saved 5grand buying a d22 over a d40

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Thatís a sweet-looking truck, congratulations!

The D22 definitely has its good points over the D40 - price is one, but itís also a more robust design with none of the chassis problems the D40 gets. Have fun with it!
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