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post #1 of 37 (permalink) Old 20-06-19, 09:44 PM Thread Starter
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Quavey's Tekna

So here she is, seems to have come round quickly to me but my new 2019 Tekna is here, I went to collect it yesterday - quite a journey to get to FJ Chalkes in Wincanton. 4 trains in total, Bare to Lancaster, Lancaster to Wolverhampton, Wolverhampton to Reading and then Reading to Castle Cary. I left just before 8:30am and didn't make it back home until 9:30pm so quite a long day.

Handover went smoothly and quickly although I was keen to get going just for the distance so I didn't really check it over that well. A couple of things disappointed me slightly in that there wasn't a sniff of diesel in it and it has a few marks on the seats, I think its excess cleaning fluid but there is also a very dirty mark on the B pillar, it'll clean up but I have let Chalkes know just so they can keep an eye on the quality of the PDI process. However it looked smart on the outside and had 20 miles on the clock.

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Anyway - first job was to the petrol station and the Euro 6 model with the 73l tank took 69.5 liters in the petrol station. The very best I've ever managed to get in my Euro 5 model has been 71l. Initial range reported as a disappointing 430 miles and of I went with the navigation insisted we went via Bath due to road closures.

First impressions, well for the first 100 miles the gearbox was holding onto gears far longer than I would have liked but it improved through the rest of the 260 mile journey. It feels more refined than the Nconnecta, I'm not sure if its the transmission or the engine or other changes but engine noise is substantially quieter, the windows are much better and there is must less vibration through the cabin. Interestingly, and as I suspected, the 7 speed auto is much wider geared than the manual by around 15%, so 70mph in 7th in the auto is 2000rpm, where as its 2300rpm in the manual and it makes a big difference. It managed an indicated 42mpg over the first 160 miles, I stopped for something to eat and on the second leg it managed an indicated 40mpg. Using just 1/2 a tank to do the 260 mile journey home. I'd have expected 280 from the manual but the auto does have a smaller tank so its not looking bad so far! (I have to admit though the Tekna was of course unladen)

I'm going to do a separate thread with a direct comparison between the two in detail to show what has changed over the years but there are more tiny differences than I expected. I am waiting on a new seal for the tailgate and the hardtop to come before moving them and I probably won't use the new one until next week at the earliest. So she can bask in the sunshine with 280 miles on the clock for a few days!

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post #2 of 37 (permalink) Old 22-06-19, 07:56 AM
Into 3rd gear and pulling like a train!
 
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Truck looks lovely. Good luck with it.

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post #3 of 37 (permalink) Old 23-06-19, 10:09 AM
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Nice choice of colour... shame they havenít updated the alloy design.... I put trek wheels on.

The auto really hangs onto gears during the warm up phase to achieve full running temperature as soon as possible. Itís annoying sometimes and I find myself using the manual change at those times.

I wonder if they have increased the fuel tank size though?? My 17 plate eu6 has never had more than 61 litres at any fill in 2 years! I have run it as low as I ever would, way after the display reads - - and still only ever 60 litres goes in!

Good news if your tank is bigger as around 370 seems my average range for my use.


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Cheers guys, I've not driven it since as still using the old one until the end of the week when I transfer the top over. Might as well put the miles on the old rattle box. The new one does feel much more refined though!

As for fuel tank capacity, id be surprised if they had increased it again but maybe. However it was absolutely on the bone and I just filled it as high as it would go!

I quite like the wheel design to be honest, it is a work truck so I cant be too fussy! Its a million times better than the MY20 new wheel design though they are absolutely rank. I looked back through a few receipts for teh Euro 5 and 68/69l was quite common the most I ever got in was 71 but I don't run it _that_ low. Obviously chalkes hadn't put anything in it but it had done 20 miles which i feel is quite high for a delivery miles vehicle (last time I collected a brand new van it had done 5 miles!)

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It's been here nearly 10 days, I've used it for work once now I've transferred the top still on its original tank of fuel its now done 440 miles on the first tank, the reserve light has just come on so I will fill it on Monday and see what its actually done. I cant quite believe it but the "long term" (Consumption 1) has settled at 38.6mpg, exactly the same as the Nconnecta had over the last 100k miles. I notice a difference though when moving away, normally consumption 2 would report as about 18.7mpg when driving away on my usual route in a morning this one is nearer 13mpg. It is much worse round town as it holds onto gears when cold where as in the manual I would rumble along at 1100rpm this seems to want to do at least 1750rpm before changing up. However the longer gearing on a run does seem to help economy even if it is prone to changing down to 6th or even 5th on the motorway without much provocation.

Anyway, we fitted the top with a new seal, I still need to do the tailgate seal but its not a big job and I've reloaded all my stuff into the back of it and so far so good. Some initial observations after a day of using it. The reversing camera has bending lines when reversing, the Nconnecta did not. However the screen is shared with the top view so I find the picture quality of the reverse camera to be inferior to the Nconnecta. However it is quite useful to use as a gauge when reverse bay parking to make sure you are evenly positioned between the lines. Parking sensors are weird as well, of course non existent on the lower spec example. The seats are better, plus being electric on the drivers side the height adjustment leaver isn't sat on when exiting the vehicle. I always felt that was a vulnerable part of the Nconnecta. The aircon seems better as well and quicker to act - however this could be to do with the age of the other machine!

Another change is the engine start up, where as the Euro5 lump would burst into life and idle immediately at 1000rpm, this one seems to randomly rev to 1500/1600rpm on initial startup for a second before setting back to a proper idle.

The gearbox, well I knew what I was expecting. Its not terrible by any means, but its nowhere near as good as a ZF8hp or even a ZF6hp to be honest but it does the job.

And there we have a couple of pictures of a Tekna with a top - the roof rails are a bit of an eyesore I have to admit there may have to be some sort of wrapping takes place if it annoys me much more!
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Glad you seem to be liking it.

38.6! I bet when you do the calcs it wonít be but you have already beaten my best with your fiirst tank! Iíve passed 400 miles only once when driving long distance. I look forward to the figures. Iím sure you have a larger tank than mine!

The gearbox software is terrible. It will literally drop to 6th at 83 mph even when cruising with no extra throttle input. I pop it in manual when on the motorway and leave it in 7th...l which is great until you forget and have to frantically pull it back over to get it out of 1st once youíve got going again! In general it refuses to use the engines torque and wants to be in the lowest gear possible at all times.....not good really.

The zf8 as you say is an amazing box, we have it on a BMW X5..... just wish they had used it in the Navara.


One thing definitely worth a look at is the I-drive throttle controller. I have had mine on for a month now and itís a fantastic addition.
I have removed my TDI tuning box as itís going for its first service this week and can honestly say it doesnít need remapping or a tuning box when the I-drive is fitted. Totally transforms the throttle and in turn the gear changes. I wonít refit the tuning box and will sell it on. The economy setting may be useful for your motorway use, but the ultimate mode transforms the response times.

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Cheers will have a look at the I-Drive throttle controller, not something I have come across before.

No chance it will be 38.6 but its what the manual used to display and returned normally around the 35 mark so will be interesting to see on Monday when I fill it up. As for the gearbox software there must be some room for improvement and what aftermarket solutions exist for that I'm not sure obviously ZF boxes are able to be remapped to improve their behavior and shift times etc. Mine is almost all motorway work I also tend to sit at 65-70 as there is little point rushing and it does help economy.

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The Jatco 7AT gearbox isn't the greatest, the same one as in the V6 D40 and various other Nissan/Infiniti vehicles. Obviously it it works, but it doesn't seem to be int he right gear, especially in the 20 to 40 mph range. Saying that it is pretty sophisticated in that it has various g-sensors, a 2 stage TC lock and the gearbox ecu also controls the turbo (to a degree).
There are remappers in the US, mostly aimed at the 370z users, so probably best to ignore the slightly odd behaviour and take advantage of the fact that this gearbox is almost as fuel efficient as a manual.
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Interesting that the V6 displays the same traits! It is annoying in traffic with a lungy downshift at around 24mph and insistence of only changing into 4th at around 2k rpm. It also almost stalled today when pulling up to a junction on a cold engine so will have to monitor that characteristic!

So first fill up today, all told 455 miles to the tank, range showing 52 miles when filling for a total of 58l (I would have expected to get 64l or so in a Euro5) so that's largely inline with what I expected. Economy works out at 35.6mpg I will take that as a win for a first tank as its probably done more town work than normal with running to the bodyshop and back etc. (Phew!) Interestingly having covered 455, Plus 52 "left" that gives us a range of 507 - the truck recalculated at 505 on leaving the petrol station which is very interesting as the Euro5 would claim far more than was achievable I do wonder if they have re calibrated things a bit to make it closer to the actual number rather than pie in the sky (I've seen more than 700 miles on the Euro5 dash!)

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Quavey had an interesting chat this AM , the wait for the new face lift is non existent it officially launches on Wednesday and they have loads of stock in the uk for immediate delivery of manual or automatic in all colours was told I could pick one up Thursday if I wanted one LOL. Having been told it would be Aug/Sept. Not sure about the wheels though! I think they may be an acquired taste or somebody may get my euro 5 with the new pattern wheels on.
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