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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old 27-12-18, 07:45 PM Thread Starter
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Tekna load/tow capacity.

I contacted Nissan customer services stating that I know the Navara can tow 3500kg but how much payload can it carry in the bed at the same time as towing 3500kg and they advised me to ask my local dealer who responded with - You need to contact Nissan customer services. 🙄
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Yeah, that was my experience of Nissan customer service too. Sorry I don't know the answer to your query though.

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You can carry the maximum payload (just over a tonne) at the same time as towing the maximum weight trailer.

The only thing to be aware of is that the trailer noseweight will be contributing to the payload, trailer noseweight depends on the number of axles it has, but some where around 90 kgs is normal.
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You can carry the maximum payload (just over a tonne) at the same time as towing the maximum weight trailer.



The only thing to be aware of is that the trailer noseweight will be contributing to the payload, trailer noseweight depends on the number of axles it has, but some where around 90 kgs is normal.


This is not quite true, at least not according to Nissan Australia. You must subtract MORE than the ball weight from the payload. For a 100kg trailer ball weight, you must deduct 130kg from your maximum allowable payload, as per the table at the very bottom of the following document:
http://www.nissan.com.au/-/media/fil...ile.ashx?la=en

Furthermore, the maximum GVM (laden weight including the ball weight and all cargo) is 2910kg and the GCM (maximum combined weight of vehicle plus trailer) is only 5910kg, so while you can tow up to 3500kg, you can only tow up to 3000kg if your vehicle is at maximum payload. The remainder of the 3500kg must be deducted from your payload.

Finally, the rear axle maximum weight is only 1750kg. So to achieve full vehicle payload and maximum tow weight, you’d need to carry a substantial proportion of your payload in the front half of the vehicle.

All figures quoted by Nissan Australia. They may vary according to legislation in your market.
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I stand corrected. It is the GTW (GCM) that is on the plate in the door aperture which shows the maximum weight of vehicle and trailer combined.
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My Navs been replated so it states a GTW of 7000kg and rear axle load of 2250kg so will have to do some sums.
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It all comes down to what the replating states...

In order to be replated, in the UK at least, you may be required to do an approved mod to the vehicle, which may be as simple as uprated springs but could also involve extra airbags and chassis bolster brackets. You are allowed weight in the tub (up to 1t typically) plus up to 3t or 3.5t of towed weight (depending truck), and usually up to a GTW of 6.5t or 7t, depending on it being a D40 or NP300.

The worst case is when you tow with standard tow ball/bracket because this puts a huge stress in terms of a vertical torque on the chassis, owing to it being a huge lever. Many people seem to break their chassis by not understanding this as a limit in its own right irrespective of weight in the tub. Nissan tells you the limit for you model, but it really does depend on how much the tow bars sticks out, which is a grey area. Bear in mind that an extra 6" is probably 10% more vertical torque, irrespective of the weight loading... Go figure....

Where you have a 5th wheel, the nose weight is precisely over the rear axle in the tub by design (5-800kg is typical, and assuming the fitter is not clueless, which has happened), and it does not lever the front wheels into space, like if you are using a tow-ball.

If you buy a UK, type-approved 5th wheel, the weight and weight distribution is going to be legal for UK and EU. If you buy a US import 5th wheel, you have to do you own sums, as not all suppliers are entirely up to spec with many of the regulations. In all cases, you have to ensure yourself that the total load in the truck and the trailer does not exceed the the max GTW, -or- the max plated loading on the (rear) axle, -or- the max allowed weight in the tub.

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My Navs been replated so it states a GTW of 7000kg and rear axle load of 2250kg so will have to do some sums.


What work was involved to do this - is it an administrative change only, or has there been any chassis reinforcement done?

Given Navs (and indeed all dual-cabs) are already pretty notorious in Oz for snapping their chassis when towing heavy loads on rough roads, the idea of adding more weight seems a bit alarming!
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In the UK, with a D40, you can normally plate up to 6.5t, and you'd fit air bags between chassis and leaf springs. And for 5th wheel use, there are quite surprisingly chunky and long chassis bolster rails that support the hitch.

With an NP300 I believe you can go to 7t with uprated rear coil springs or airbags. Same with recent Rangers adn Amaroks.

There are companies such as SVTech who issue the plates so long as the mods are done correctly; I would think is easier if done by a company who are somehow known to, or accredited by, SVTech. I know one person who did his own work and got up-plated (on an Isuzu).

There will be tow-ers with D40's using just a tow ball to move 3t trailers, in theory OK and to spec. Clearly the towball and bracket must be rated for 3t, and up to a certain noseweight, but it's not the best idea, as there can be a big torque on the chassis aft of the rear wheels if the trailer bobs up down on a rough road, or under braking/acceleration. The trailer brakes would need to be calibrated to minimize stress and fatigue. I imagine that snapped chassis will be down heavy trailers on tow balls - I can't say I heard of this in the UK, but then the chassis rots and breaks anyway if untreated!
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My Navs been replated so it states a GTW of 7000kg and rear axle load of 2250kg so will have to do some sums.
The other consideration you will have to take into account is if the changes made to take the truck up to 7000kg GTW have took the unlden weight over the magic 2040 kg you will have to watch out for speed cams as your normal speed limits above 30 and up to DC will be reduced by 10MPH something that the Wildtracks and VWs already suffer with.
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