[Brian the Snail]

I'm after a Winch

As I'm fed up with hand moving my 4 wheel trailer about the yard ( the yard isn't large enough to turn around, so has to be unhitched and moved by hand.

A winch on the back of the Nav would make short work of a 180 degree turn plus it would be helpful when i recover my boat and trailer from slips etc etc.

Has anyone seen one installed on the back Bumper / tow bar ?
Is it possible ?

Brian

 

[Guest]

you'd have to do some major bodywork alterations to get a winch on the back brain....cant you employ a bloke to move the trailer for you...

 

[Guest]

have you got a towbar? you can get clip-on to towbar winches - but they are relativly poncey (ie ony a ton or so pull)

I mounted one onto the C rail on the floor (ok - it was a gurly winch - about 250kg jobbie) briefly - until it rusted (overnight) solid.... :shock:

DONT buy one of the 50 quid jobs off ebay - total waste of time - lasted, literally, overnight in the rain

 

[Guest]

is that what caravaners use guy ........

 

[Brian the Snail]

you'd have to do some major bodywork alterations to get a winch on the back brain....cant you employ a bloke to move the trailer for you...

i do, but both the buggers were on site the other day when i bought the trailer back

The Wife even came out to lend a hand, i asked her to STAND WELL CLEAR im going to lash it and drag it sideways :lol:

I love 4wd LOW

 

[Guest]

guy might be on to something here..blokes with big caravans must use something to manoeuvre them so one of these towbar winches might be the answer....

 

[Brian the Snail]

im looking at something like this

Im not overkeen on the ones that attatch to the Tow Bar Ball, as you have to fudge the thing out and then hook it up, then plug it in.

In all that time i could find a pedestrian give em a Fiver for a push.

Im after a Fixed option on the rear step, with Fast line out

So it makes a job quick and easy.

I think its possible to beef up the tow bar brackets and month the winch on there somewhere, but would mean the tow bar ball to jut out a bit further

 

[Brian the Snail]

Big caravans have electric motors fitted to each wheel and are manouvered by them

Something i looked into when thinking of a caravan :lol:

But i dont want to put motors on my trailer as i would rather have a winch , as im alway pulling stuff about the yard

 

[Guest]

if you stick on to the rear step its going to have to be small enough so as the tailgate don't bang into it....didnt know about the motorised wheels on big caravans..learn something new everyday...

 

[LOFTY]

I have mounted winchs on all sorts, and looking at my Witter tow bar, i would say you could fit a 9000lb winch, as long as the fitting plate was welded to the tow bar. If you think about your average land rover front end, has 4no m8 bolts holding on 90% of winch bumpers, with a high number fitted with Warn 8274, the construction of a 2700kg towing bar can handle it easily as theres a major safty factor built in.

 

[Guest]

I have bought a 9000lb one today - and organised a group buy....

from http://www.motocoemi.co.uk/

Ill report on the quality shortly...

 

[smarter]

On one of my oldD22 i put a towbar on the front and rear and had a portable whinch which sat on the towbar. it was quite good. i had a superwinch 4500 it was ok for hauling **** around and puling tree stumps etc out!

 

[Dunc]

Brian,
You can buy a little motorised buggy with a ball on it that lifts the front of the trailer and allows you to trundle it about, its kinda like a little golf cart but obviously much stronger.

I find with my trailer (tandem axle, 800kg empty) that it is much easier to shoft about if I lift it high enough to get the front set of wheels off the ground. A decent jockey wheel makes a big difference.

I'm not keen on winching the trailer about off the Nav because at some point, you'll do it on a slope and the trailer will try and run off ending up belting the back of the truck.... Yes, haul the handbrake on and try to stop it but that puts you between two objects which can potentially trap you. :shock:

 

[Brian the Snail]

Cheers for the great input guys

Dunc, i have just bought one of those wheeled things with a ball hitch, its not motorised though and one of the wheels has gone flat
E Bay Junk for you !!
But it didnt lift the front of the trailer Up to get the trailer onto 2 of the 4 wheels so wasnt anygood anyway.

Im really serious about the winch on the back as it could also winch my speed boart onto its trailer, as it has one of those Hand Driven winches at teh moment and its difficult to winch the boat on at teh same time as lining up the rollers when it comes out of the water,
So a winch with a 7 mtr remote would be ideal

I think what ill do is Buy the Winch and then make it fit :lol:

Scary- i hadnt thought about the tailgate hitting it, ill check the heights.

 

[Brian the Snail]

Just ordered this Baby

£ 350 inc vat Job Done

 

[Brian the Snail]

Its Just arrived, its got 2 massive thick cables comming out

Lord knows how im going to get them to the front

I have (sort of) planned how its going to fit

Ill keep this updated

 

[Guest]

How are you powering it brian?

I have a secondary battery system on mine (and I strongly suggest you do the same)

On mine, I bought a 'smartcom relay' from towsure. this detetcts the higher voltage on the engine battery from the alternator, and connects it to your secondary battery

the output of this is connected to a massive relay (180 amp - a bit OTT but hey)

This then connects the batteries in the bed (two 80ah traction batteries) to the main engine battery, thereby charging them.

You HAVE to use somthing like the smartcom, as a normal split charge relay system relies on the charge warning light of the alternator - but the one on the nav just powers an LED, not a bulb, and so doesnt have the power to fire a relay (even a litte one - i tried it)

To run the cables, pop it down behind the wheel, onto the chassis member, then along it, cable tieing it often, easy.

ususal rubbish about fuses etc applies (ie fuse on both ends)

 

[Brian the Snail]

mmmmm this is going to be exepensive.

I think ill take it to my local 4x4 off road specialist mechanic, to get a costing.

 

[Guest]

why?

 

[Brian the Snail]

why?

I havent the time myself.

All Finnished !! :lol: