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The new one its so much better than the old box . you cruise at 75 with just under 2 k revs on . So quiet as well!!
Sounds great, I wish I'd had the chance to try I might have gone for that instead of the auto - ah well! Have to see if I get a third truck one day!
 

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So a minor thing, 12,410 (just after the last post!) it requested more adblu, which is just 5000 miles after the last warning popped on, first warning came on at 7500! Now up to 12,850 a quiet week for driving at least. But will need to get some adblu next week again. Not much to report really
 

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13,280 the count down was on, I happened to be near a garage so chucked 10l of adblue in just a few miles later.

870 miles from the warning to the countdown! Which bizarrely is the same as last time, which is either just a random figure it uses or my adblue usage/driving style is totally consistent!

Anyway, it'll be interesting to see how long this 10l last - I should really use a pump and see how much I can get in there although I feel I will get some funny looks as most adblue pumps I've seen are in the wagon area.

As for the rest of the fleet, I need to get a pair of front tyres for the 520d nothing major just wearing out and picked up as low on its last MOT.

M5 - going for its service this week and a couple of other jobs, couple of arms to be replaced and a brake fluid change plus the secondary air injection pump has developed a whistle. An irritating peice of hardware whos entire job is to fire air down the exhaust so that the combined gas coming out the 4 tail pipes contained less ( by total volume) CO2. (As far as I can work out anyway). Runs for 30 seconds after a cold engine start and it appears some of the connectors get brittle on this system so it produces a high pitched whistle.

Blank space - for the "other" car that I've so far resisted buying, although I will admit I've looked a little more than casual browsing at various Landrovers over the last few weeks it all got a bit out of hand this weekend when I ended up running insurance quotes on two of them. Luckily one managed to find a new owner the same day (and it wasnt me!) and the second having lived in the IOM for the last few years has the potential to be a head ache even by my standards. I've given my self a good talking too and promised not to look for at least an hour... Dad then mentioned it had snowed in a couple of places on high ground which is akin to dangling a kebab infront of someone whos 8 pints in... I will get help once I admit I have a problem!
 

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Well... I am most annoyed, adblue warning is on AGAIN! 15,898 which is less than 3500 miles which is just pathetic. So first full tank, 7500 miles till the fill light, then 5000 miles and now 3500 miles so its quite a dramatic reduction in distance covered. I called Chalkes about it who basically said it only does 2500 miles on a tank of adblue. Helpful! They did suggest that the quality (or urea content?) may be better from an agricultural supply place rather than the bottles from a petrol station I've used the last two times. It is now just shy of 16,000 miles and due a service in the next 2500 plus the cold weather probably is having an impact.

520d still needs a pair of front tyres I really must get those ordered!

M5 - Has been for its service, brake fluid change and replacement air pipe to stop its whistle. I also had a pair of new arms to have fitted, I wish I hadn't bothered not only did a bolt break which caused issues having to get it drilled out of the hub which made the bill more expensive than I anticipated it's also ruined the car and developed a very weird vibration at speed and when braking. BMW specialist blames the new arms, after some discussion the arm supplier has agreed to refund those items and I've ordered at the recommendation of the specialist some different bushes which are currently being fitted into my original arms and they will be refitted in due course. Annoyingly BMW list one part number from a 520d to an M5 for the front arms and as such the aftermarket Meyle HD ones should have been fine but I just wondered with the weight of the V10 and its semi dry sump etc if its just too much for the Meyle bushes.

Blank space for "other" car, it is still Blank (ish), but I've talked my self into agreeing to buy another large thing with a green oval badge in front of 8 cylinders, some seats behind and a tow bar at the back. Plan is to collect this life ruiner on Saturday although I've got a friend with me who is under strict instructions to punch me in the face if its a rubbish example. (If anyone is keeping tabs this will be Range Rover number 5, my 7th V8 whilst still having the V10 - Come at me Greta!)
 

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Navara - due its first service now, its booked in on Thursday at my now local dealer 25 miles away who have a lovely Nissan Micra for me. Nice. £203 +vat for oil, oil filter, kick of the tyres and their insistence on changing brake fluid every 5 minutes! No more adblue warning as yet but only done 2500 miles since I last filled it up. An unusual issue the other day I'm not sure if it is the car or the pumps fault but when filling I got the telltail gurgling sound as its getting full where the pump would normally click off but not this time! Diesel all down the side of the truck, my shoes, trousers. Yuck, I hate the smell of the stuff at the best of times but being covered in it is especially unpleasant! Never have I spilled fuel 15 years of driving so I think it must have been the pump!

M5 Hasn't moved much, I did use the other day for a long journey but it just reminded me how unpleasant it is to drive with the current bushes in the front, the specialist that I placed my trust into doesn't appear to be that interesting in doing what he offered of replacing the bushes in my old arms - I've been waiting 6 weeks now for him to do this.

520d, new tyres are here and they need fitting its also requesting brake pads - a miracle they've not been needed before to be honest! However the other air suspension bag is now starting to fail as I suspected with a month left on the warranty its at the garage being "diagnosed" I just hope it sinks in good time today!


Well it happened didn't it, I must have had it nearly a month now. I clearly will never learn. Actually its not bad, it doesn't leak (much!), its quite presentable although I'm not a fan of the front grill. The interior is largely in good condition. I have upgraded the SatNav drive in it as the old one wasn't particularly clever - I probably would have done it anyway so cant complain to much. Other intermittent fault is it has fits and starts of proclaiming Transfer Box Neutral, which for the avoidance of doubt its trying to tell me the Transfer Box is in neutral rather than High or Low Range. What is actually happening is the potentiometer which tells the car which range the transfer box motor is set to is sending the wrong signal to the transfer box ECU... Fun and games. However, after some encouragement I've made it change range around 20 times which appears to have cleared up the contact tracks and cured the issue. I have bought a spare motor just incase though...

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It's been a few weeks so I'll do a bit of a fleet update.

Navara - Now up to 23,000 miles, it asked for adblue at 20,186 which is about 4300 miles after last time. I had just less than half of a 20l tub left so tipped that in, I expect it'll ask for some more in the next 1000 miles. For one complex reason or another I was heading home from the hospital at 2:45 in the morning the other day and I managed to get pulled by the police as with a Glasgow Registration in Lancaster at that time of day they assumed it had been stolen! Other than that not much to report, fuel economy is mainly 33-36mpg depending on the journey's that week, the fuel tank is still small, long term average on the dash has dropped to 38.4mpg. It does seem badly affected by the cold. However the windows sticking and the freezing up inside I had on the 2016 have thankfully not been an issue on this one.

Old girl looking filthy the other week.

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M5, it's been fine, I haven't used it that much its still not particularly nice to drive but I now do have my original arms, with the new bushes installed ready to be fitted and I'm just waiting for a slot at a friends garage to get it in. I've also FINALLY! found/ordered/been bothered to buy a replacement parking sensor so after almost 2 years it won't ding at me when I start it.

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F11 520d - has now had tyres fitted, now requesting brake pads which are here and I'll try and get done in the next few days. Luckily after much discussion and 3 return visits the other airspring on the back of it was declared to be faulty before the warranty expired so it has had both done with genuine parts under the warranty.

Range Rover - I like this one, weird isn't it how you do gel with some cars and not with others. Whilst its no doubt annoying it has a roguish charm about it, not dissimilar to my very first P38. Transfer box neutral returned one day just before Xmas so I fitted the spare range change motor I had in the shed and its been perfect since. In between Xmas and new year the infotainment system decided working was something for peasants to do so some investigation was needed to find there was some corrosion in a pin in a connector so I've managed to repair that and restore that to full working order. I've also replaced the battery as the one fitted wasn't brilliant. I've also washed it! I ordered some original grills for it from ebay around a month ago which have not yet turned up, every excuse under the sun but I'm being patient... but even I have my limits. Next job is a quick oil change, whilst the PO says hes done it I do like to change it on a vehicle I buy second hand, just incase and it can't hurt!

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And finally the other week, with the 520d out for the day and me working from home saw the three amigos together for a change on the drive! (As you can imagine I'm everyones favorite person locally! :LOL:)

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Another month roars by, now on 26,600 miles. They seem to be climbing faster than ever. It asked for some adblue again recently, I've stopped keeping particular track of it now I have to admit.

This week amongst other places I went from Lancaster to wolverhampton, worcester, cheltenham, gloucester, droitwich and back to Lancaster which is about 400 miles or so, achieved comfortably without the light coming on for a calculated 36mpg (40 on the dash!) - now the weather has warmed up a bit it seems to have helped again.

520d has behaved although has recently received another war wound on the back bumper - luckily its still got its scratches from 12 months ago so I'll leave it another year and get it all done together! I have managed to do the paperthin brake pads though so now its got some stopping material again.

M5 - still with the arms in the boot, could do with a thermostat I've noticed its running a few degrees to cool so its provisionally booked in for that job which is 4 hours on one of these and requires a fair amount of disassembly of the upper plenums etc. I'm considering letting it go to be honest as it was 2 years this week since I bought it and I said I would do 12 months and sell it. I think i'd like something more modern and usable especially with work being as hectic at the moment I just struggle to find the time to mess and worry about cars etc

Range Rover - I've not managed to do its planned oil change, the weeks seem to fly by as a blur, filter and oil is here just needs doing. Perhaps this week! Its currently got no fuel in it as standard but I have done something like 600 miles in it since purchase which is quite a bit for me!
 

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So life is at somewhat of a standstill, certainly compared to normal. The navara is now up to 28,600. I haven't really driven it since the 24th March where I had to make an emergency 600 mile round trip to a customer through the night (attempting to sleep in the truck!) to be there at 7 in the morning to quickly install a new machine, I left at 9am for the return journey and drove non stop the 300 miles home. We do work in pharmacy and our equipment can be quite important to helping a pharmacy keep up with the current demand, as a service engineer I have my key worker letter etc but as yet nothing in our estate of many hundreds of systems has gone wrong sufficiently for me to visit - which is very good news. The postal service for consumables for the users is also holding up so we have done well. Infact in the last 6 weeks I think we've only had to send an engineer out to a pharmacy twice in Scotland.

Range Rover is actually the vehicle in the most use at the moment, mainly as it needs the most exercise to keep it behaving. I've finally managed to change the oil on it, no idea what was in it before but it certainly wasn't the correct oil! It seems to run much nicer now, quieter and smoother which is good news. Other than that it is largely behaving its self!

520d Rarely moves although I am trying to take each of them for a run in the evening every couple of weeks to keep battery's charged and seals lubricated etc.

M5 much the same, little use although again I try and exercise is from time to time. Arms still in the boot... (8 months now? for goodness sake...!) and my appointment for the thermostat did get cancelled. Although I have realised the issue I thought was being caused by the thermostat is now not the thermostat so its not quite as important! Anyway, long live the mighty V10 every time I drive it I'm reminded at what an amazing engine it is. Not so impressive at lower speeds but its ability to propel the car forwards at higher speeds is like nothing I've ever driven.

So whats next? Well my role has changed in the business which means that I may not have the truck for much longer - to be replaced by something much much more exciting but will have a shorter range - every cloud and all that. Still, as and when that happens I'll have had a total of 4 years in an NP300 and more than 130,000 miles which I don't think is bad!
 

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I'll chuck a quick update in if anyone is still reading, an interesting day for two reason. I've been to Oxford, for the grand total of 5 minutes, but that for me is a 412 mile round trip. What with Covid-19 the roads are still dramatically quieter than normal so I completed the return journey in 7:35 including a truly extravagant 20 minute stop for lunch and filling up with diesel which makes around 7 hours of driving. With this smooth running comes efficiency. Today it covered 412 miles on 49l for a calculated economy of 38.2mpg. The dash reported more than 43mpg on all legs of the journey. Leaving this morning with an estimated range of 560 miles, returning to the petrol station after 412 with 150 on the range. On leaving the petrol station it was showing an optimistic (as ever!) 596 miles. Not bad for a little tank euro 6 automatic!

The M5 is off being ceramic coated, Range Rover working well, still in the most use out of any of them really although I keep thinking about treating my self to another supercharged...! 520d same as ever really apart from some old fool had a go at knocking a mirror off it the other day. Luckily only succeeded in shattering his own and leaving a red mark on ours and it came off with some polish.
 

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I've been to gretna today as well so like half a normal week! However the end is nigh for my time with a Navara. I will miss it a bit, but onto something different as I've ordered my new vehicle.
 

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You don't wanna be messing with an L322, you need an old school P38 diesel like mine :) wanna swap???

My long term average for the Navara is 38MPG and I do somewhere in the same region as yourself mileage wise (Bristol and back is a 'normal' journey for me, via Newbury of course....) but must admit AdBlue usage does seem to vary even though I do almost the same type of miles each week? Will have to measure it again though as recently had to have 3 of the o2 sensors replaced on the exhaust system! Luckily all done under warranty......happily it's the first issue i've had on the Nav though after 3 years of owning it
 
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You don't wanna be messing with an L322, you need an old school P38 diesel like mine :) wanna swap???

My long term average for the Navara is 38MPG and I do somewhere in the same region as yourself mileage wise (Bristol and back is a 'normal' journey for me, via Newbury of course....) but must admit AdBlue usage does seem to vary even though I do almost the same type of miles each week? Will have to measure it again though as recently had to have 3 of the o2 sensors replaced on the exhaust system! Luckily all done under warranty......happily it's the first issue i've had on the Nav though after 3 years of owning it
Haha, I've had 5 Range Rovers now this is my third L322 but the others were a pair of P38's both 4.6 Thors. I have to say I had no huge bother with any of the 5. The second L322 was a bit of a pain in the bum but i escaped relatively unscathed. I have to say the one I bought last November has been pretty good and whilst I keep threatening to buy another supercharged (wonderful car) I cant really get my head around spending more than double this ones value again on a machine to sit outside and do very little miles. Both P38's never let me down, the 99 Thor I changed the airsprings on and rebuilt the compressor etc. The 01 Vogue was quite well behaved, mainly electrical issues (nav computer was dead when I got it, along with the ABS ECU and subsequently a door latch failed which as you'll know are the most complex bit of kit known to man!) The 07 Supercharged was the best though, history is chronicled in my old truck thread - Quavey's N-Connecta If you fancy a long read!

Now, sad times but I've sold the Tekna it goes to a new owner on Monday, my new company car comes on Wednesday its arrived much quicker as I swapped to a new inventory car to get free supercharging (i.e free fuel!). If that isn't enough of clue the new motor is an EV, of Elon Musk variety in the shape of a Tesla Model S Long Range.

As for the rest of the fleet, 520d still on the same tank of fuel from March! I'm not sure if the battery is a bit weak as it has complained a couple of times about the battery being low but then its been largely idle for 3 months with the occasional run - i'm sure it'll be fine now its back in more regular use.

M5 has been for ceramic coating and another big machine polish and is looking much better again. Logic states I should sell it with the Tesla coming but I really don't want to!

Range Rover, full of junk for a tip appointment but I use it quite a bit at the moment. What a great machine they are.
 

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So no more Navara! It would be good to see how you get on with the Tesla. Everybody I know with electric is obsessed with range and battery levels.
 

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So no more Navara! It would be good to see how you get on with the Tesla. Everybody I know with electric is obsessed with range and battery levels.
Well... Yes there is a bit of Range anxiety etc and there are two reasons why the Tesla isn't so bad, first its got the longest range of any electric car on sale. Rated at 379 miles on WLTP which is a miles more realistic test than NEDC (they are rated at 450+on that system!). 400 miles has been achieved from a Long Range Raven in the real world (which is what I've got). The other factor with a Tesla is the supercharging network, in my case its free due to the car I've bought, but even if you have to pay you literally just plug it in and it charges a credit card kept on file. Its that easy. We've already got a few in the business and I've driven a colleagues a few times.

I've got a charger installed at home now, I'll start the day with a full (ish, for a number of reasons they recommend you don't charge to 100% every day) battery and there won't be any visits to the petrol station in it of course. I do quite a few miles, mainly motorway and I regularly visit a services so parking in a special spot for 15 minutes whilst I get a sandwich and empty another tank will add 50-100 miles back into it depending on its state of charge etc.


The numbers are fascinating though even my non performance one is 0-60 in 3.7 seconds which is a second quicker than my 500bhp V10 M5! and yet with its 100kw battery (lets assume a full charge is 90kw and I only get 300 miles from it at my tariff of 14p a kw its only £12.60 to fill it up to do 300 miles, £12.60 gets you around 2.7 gallons of fuel (cheap at the moment), worst case that equates to around 110mpg. I've rounded every number down, I might even pay 12p a KW I can't remember but if you do the numbers based on cheaper electric and 350 miles on a charge it comes out at nearer 150mpg! The cost of course drops to nothing when using Superchargers in mine so its literally free to drive. Vs £6k in diesel a year I did spend.

I could waffle for hours, the cost of the car of course is a huge thing and actually its not that easy to justify but as a company car, no road tax, 0% BIK, very little fuel and also "green" (ish) credentials plus it was my treat for long service to the company. It will be lovely to drive a normal car though every day rather than some sort of commercial vehicle!
 

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Interesting, for a private motorist the £3k annual fuel saving doesn't really justify the £80k price tag, saying that it would if you ran it for 15 years or so. As a company car it must work well, especially if you balance it against a powerful german saloon.
 

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The model 3 offers much the same although for me the size was an issue and a shorter range etc and I don't particularly like the look of them but they are considerably cheaper. Thing is, there is very little in the price bracket that can match the performance - at least up to 60. That's where the ICE has got it licked, the M5's V10 gives amazing performance in the higher speeds where as off the line it isn't so brilliant. By contrast a Ferrari F430 books at 3.6 seconds to 60 and was say £120k, they only stopped making those in 2009 so to have a large saloon with a battery that can all but match it to 60mph is quite an amazing spectacle. (At no point am I suggesting that this Model S is anything like an F430 or a match in any single way but in a 0-60 dash they are about the same!)

As you say the pay back is a long time, but then you could easily spend £80,000 on another vehicle and it still cost many thousands a year to run - the residuals on the Tesla are remarkably good as well!
 

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Well there we have it, end of an era. 4 years with an NP300, a total of just over 131,000 miles I am now without a Navara!

So quick roundup of the Tekna Auto:

Just a single service at 18,600 miles for £250. No warranty work required or any other costs incurred with the exception of diesel and adblue.

Long term average economy displayed 38.4mpg. I found the automatic better on fuel on a run than the manual but dramatically worse round town - which is largely to be expected.

Naturally no tyres or brakes as it had only done 30,000 miles which again is to be expected.

Really very little to report on it!

I am quite sad if truth be told, having 5.3m of pickup truck has been a big part of my life for 4 years now and whilst it was only for work and pretty much never used for anything other than as my home from home/office whilst at work I'll look back fondly on the old girls.

One thing I won't miss is just the sheer size of it when it comes to local parking. My Range Rover will now take up residency outside a neighbours house (a happy neighbour who likes a familiar vehicle etc and doesnt drive) but it being 14 inches shorter than the navara will help it look a little smaller.
 
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