[Lanicholson]

Bit of a odd one 🤪 I replaced my rear lights on my np300 for smoked leds ones a few years ago and late last year my labourer noticed my drivers side was cracked, no idea how weren’t me, luckily I found on eBay someone selling a brand new one but he didn’t know the light patterned so I gambled and bid and won it for £20 result fitted tonight it’s identical looks wise, lights the same, break lights the same reverse the same but the indicators different the new one is the new fancy one the lights up in a sequence so long story short does anyone know if it’s road legal and mot passable to have one solid blinking indicator and one sequential one?

 

[landmannnn]

I suppose the only time it would be noticeable would be when the hazards are on.

Have you looked for an e mark on the smoked lights? I assume neither will have one as the lights probably came from the far East. In which case they are illegal and should fail the MOT.

In practice the MOT testers don't look too hard for e marks and the police are too busy.

Actually a cracked lens will pass an MOT (just a crack, not a hole).

 

[BTW97]

This is the official MOT inspection manual

MOT inspection manual: cars and passenger vehicles - 4. Lamps, reflectors and electrical equipment - Guidance - GOV.UK

Headlamp, position lamps, daytime running lamps, stop lamps, indicators, hazard warning lamps, fog lamps, reversing lamps, lighting ‘tell-tales’, trailer electrical socket, electrical wiring and battery rules and inspection for car and passenger vehicle MOT tests.

www.gov.uk

section 4.4 (1-4)

No note of any symmetry required for indicators (that I can see) so I would be confident. By the looks of the major's its only if you basically don't have an indicator or it doesn't work that you'd fail! (in rough terms lol)

like Landmannnn says, I seriously doubt they'd pick up the E-mark which is probably the bigger issue. If you see the list of things to check that they have you bet that they would rather keep moving on than hunting around a rear headlamp!

Just out of curiosity I looked at a few forums with similar queries regarding the e-mark on retro indicators. one person reckoned that not all cars require E marks nor do you have to have E marked lights except on the foglight or gas discharge headlamps - www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si1989/Uksi_19891796_en_1.htm although I can't verify that from the link.

Another interesting article here which may shed some light. Aftermarket LED Bulbs: MOT Rules And Legalities - The Road Vehicles Lighting Regulations states a bulb needs to be E marked, approved or have the correct wattage in order to be road legal. However this is not a requirement that is checked by an MOT testing station.

The only amendment to this is that as of January 2021, the MOT Inspection manual has been updated to include LED bulbs.
Section 4.1.4 now states the following:

“Existing halogen headlamp units should not be converted to be used with high intensity discharge (HID) or light emitting diode (LED) bulbs. If such a conversion has been done, you must fail the headlamp.”

However, this doesn't mention brake lights, tail lights, indicators or reversing lights.


Edit - notice that you've already passed an MOT in this previously with those units fitted in which case I'd say your good to go as someone previously commented, lack of reflectors is probably the biggest deal if nothing else!

 

[Lanicholson]

Thanks for your answer mate, yes I’ve passed 2 mots no problem with the smoked leds, I showed a colleague the indicators today and his very knowledgeable and he said it’s not a issue as long as they both indicate

 

[Lanicholson]

Thanks for your answer mate, yes I’ve passed 2 mots no problem with the smoked leds, I showed a colleague the indicators today and his very knowledgeable and he said it’s not a issue as long as they both indicate

yes I passed the mot with the crack

 

[Lanicholson]

Yes passed the mot with the crack I just wanted it replaced and didn’t want to buy a pair, the originals I bought I uk spec and fully Road legal, according to 4x4at anyway

 

[BTW97]

Yes passed the mot with the crack I just wanted it replaced and didn’t want to buy a pair, the originals I bought I uk spec and fully Road legal, according to 4x4at anyway

Ah yeah got it.👍glad it all went ok! 4x4at is a good crowd

Tempted to buy a set of those lights for mine actually, they look very good.