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spookyrooky

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the trucks got 51k on the clock and its a 56 plate, at what mileage should the chain be replaced and whats involved? (is there anywhere respectable that supplys a full kit) and what kind off price am i looking at here?
 
If its not rattling then its not stretched. I wouldn't change it if your not having problems but if you do you can get the uprated aftermarket one for around ÂŁ1000.
Billcar do chain kits also try Milners of road.
 
spookyrooky said:
its not rattling or loose, just curious as ive never had a chain driven vehicle and im unsure if it needs changed like a petrol belt driven motor around the 60k mark.

but thank you anyways :)
The Navara D40 timing chains are supposed to last the life of the truck but, on some trucks the chain tensioner wears prematurely, this allows the chains to stretch, and so then they need sorting and pretty quick.

Not all D40's suffer this issue, and Nissan will replace the tensioners and chains under recall, but only if they're wearing, and in some situations that's too late.

Nissan should really make it a general recall to be on the side of caution, but i doubt that they will :roll:
 
Hi. just had the head machined the Valves was set into the head. Twic I have The secondry timing chian has scipped 1 tooth on all 3 gears. Haven't been able to find out measurement of the chain when 'new' The current lenght is 368mm. Now I have got it going. :clappy: It is lagging in power on eccelleration. could it be the EGR Valve sticking? :?
 
Lil'Trucker! said:
spookyrooky said:
its not rattling or loose, just curious as ive never had a chain driven vehicle and im unsure if it needs changed like a petrol belt driven motor around the 60k mark.

but thank you anyways :)
The Navara D40 timing chains are supposed to last the life of the truck but, on some trucks the chain tensioner wears prematurely, this allows the chains to stretch, and so then they need sorting and pretty quick.

Not all D40's suffer this issue, and Nissan will replace the tensioners and chains under recall, but only if they're wearing, and in some situations that's too late.

Nissan should really make it a general recall to be on the side of caution, but i doubt that they will :roll:

Up to what age/mileage will Nissan do this?
 
I'll try out this into prospective for you.
Nissan extended the warranty to 100,000miles or 5yrs. They will only look/replace the chain/gears/tensioner if found to be noisy (stretched chain)
The tensioner will take up normal wear, when the tensioner wears Due to the stretching of the chain, and the chain is no longer under tension, there is a risk of timing cover wear (oil leak) timing chain jumping giving incorrect timing, or chain failure! (engine kerplunk!)
If your engine is noisy then take it to the dealer and let them listen to it, if it's not noisy, leave it alone, or for peace of mind take it to billcar for the duplex conversion or buy a kit from them and do it yourself.
Basically Nissan fitted a bike chain to power a train, billcar fit a train chain ... So to speak.
Ideally a timing chain should last the lifetime of the vehicle, anybody mechanically minded or trained will advise changing it at 100,000 miles.
Nissan chains have been known to stretch beyond scope and fail at 60,000 miles according to billcar.
Hope that helps :cheers2:
 
eddmurphy said:
In theory a chain should be done every 100k, however theres no necessity to do so.
In theory a chain living in an oil bath should last as long as any engine component.
 
diydave said:
eddmurphy said:
In theory a chain should be done every 100k, however theres no necessity to do so.
In theory a chain living in an oil bath should last as long as any engine component.
True but chains also have a lot more wearable parts than say a camshaft for big end .....

Chains stretch, pick up weak links, have tight spots, wear funny etc.
 
eddmurphy said:
diydave said:
eddmurphy said:
In theory a chain should be done every 100k, however theres no necessity to do so.
In theory a chain living in an oil bath should last as long as any engine component.
True but chains also have a lot more wearable parts than say a camshaft for big end .....

Chains stretch, pick up weak links, have tight spots, wear funny etc.
Last quote was Absolutely bang on !!!!
 
Yes i agree lots of weak points, however have been in engineering for years, I have drive chains on high torque applications in oil baths, installation date as early as 1962.
Never needed any attention since install.
My point being, Nissan have cocked up on design and should pick up the batton, not change it FOC before 100 k miles of under 1st 5 years.

It isn't weak points failing its just not man enough.
 
Biggi said:
I'll try out this into prospective for you.
Nissan extended the warranty to 100,000miles or 5yrs. They will only look/replace the chain/gears/tensioner if found to be noisy (stretched chain)
The tensioner will take up normal wear, when the tensioner wears Due to the stretching of the chain, and the chain is no longer under tension, there is a risk of timing cover wear (oil leak) timing chain jumping giving incorrect timing, or chain failure! (engine kerplunk!)
If your engine is noisy then take it to the dealer and let them listen to it, if it's not noisy, leave it alone, or for peace of mind take it to billcar for the duplex conversion or buy a kit from them and do it yourself.
Basically Nissan fitted a bike chain to power a train, billcar fit a train chain ... So to speak.
Ideally a timing chain should last the lifetime of the vehicle, anybody mechanically minded or trained will advise changing it at 100,000 miles.
Nissan chains have been known to stretch beyond scope and fail at 60,000 miles according to billcar.
Hope that helps :cheers2:
93,000 or 5yrs, and they will check your service schedule to make sure it's been done or I think you'll find they (Nissan ) wont honour the warranty.

Mine went (stretched) low 40k, and didn't sound rough at all in fact I took it to an independant garage and they said how sweet sounding she was :shock: yep exceptions to rules :(
 
jkata said:
Does the warranty extension cover the D40? I thought it was on the D22?

I've just checked the Nissan website and it says 60,000 miles or 3 years. :?
That's the standard Nissan vehicle warranty but they extended it for the timing chain c0ckup!
Pretty much a hush hush approach from Nissan though
 
It really isn't just Nissan that have timing chain issues almost all manufactures have it in one for or other ford being another main one on there commercial engines, I believe one model of the L200 suffered an epidemic of timing chain failure VAG group it's not unheard of either
To be honest the number of people who have actually had the chain fail on this forum is single digits

I think the chain should be a service item replaced every 100,000 or so miles in a simlar way that a belt is
 
Does that apply for the Mk1 also?
Mines done 116,000, its 12 years old but runs & sounds beautiful!
 
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