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a900 said:
Seems all pickups are undertuned.
the l200 is probably the worst though, the 2.5 4d56 lump in those made 90 bhp in 1989, and in 2007 at the end of the production run they had managed to increase that figure to 115bhp lol. and it came with direct injection in 2001. It was so under powered that dealers sold an official rally art chip if you complained about the power,

then the threw on a new 16v head, common rail and a variable vane turbo in the 2006 model but still retained the 4d56 block which was a disaster in my view as they could not make a new 6 speed gearbox to keep up with times and competition, to make a measly 134bhp whilst the d40 came out a year earlier with 174 bhp. then they have the same problem of it being under powered so they gave the dakar,animal,raging bull and barbarian models a remap to 160 bhp.

then in 2010 the second generation common rail version came out with 170 bhp, low and behold the navara blows it out of the water once again with the new 190 bhp version
 
a900 said:
diggerman said:
a900 said:
Seems all pickups are undertuned.
That's because they are not meant to be race cars in standard form.
Anyway not do long ago my pickups only had 65 hp.
:lol:

Whats wrong with pickups getting you and your caravan or ton of bricks to 60 in 6 seconds? Haha :D
Australian V8 utes for everyone!!! :D
 
D40-Outlaw said:
a900 said:
Still much more power and torque than we get in our trucks.

The new VW pickup seems to have better bhp for size but they have made there engine smaller, only 2l. Seems they think there aint a market for powerful pickups in UK.

Navara v6 sounds nice
vw's pick up is massively under-tuned. only 163bhp or is it 167 I can't remember from a twin turbo 2.0 liter diesel, the bmw 123d is a 2.0 twin turbo diesel that makes 204bhp.
Getting way more power out of smaller engines isn't actually new, but most of them have one thing in comon: the will fail way earlier than one of the undertuned bigger blocks, and if the do with their 15 turbos and whatever gimmicks the engineers found in their toolbox, the produce a massive bill.
My local mechanic told me that way more of the twin-and-more turbocharged cars come in before 100tkm with some major fault, than the classic layout with "one or less turbos and a lot of displacement".
Granted, the engineers do their homework and it gets better, but the tiny powerhouses are still way behind on reliability. In a small golf or 1-series it will take longer untill they fail, simply because they don't have a lot of load, but if you would put on of those in a big workhorse, i think it wouldn't last very long. Was my main concern with the Amarok btw.
 
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