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chris vince

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I have just replaced the front discs and pads, got a very good deal from Ebay for a set of Mintex discs and pads for £71 delivered.
After fitting them I went for a test drive and noticed that when the truck was driving in gear, if I keep the accelerator on and applied the brakes, the fuel was immediately cut to the engine.
This got me thinking, for this to happen the ECU must get signals from the vehicle speed sensor to say that the truck is moving, and from the NPS to say that it is in gear.
However the engine must still get fuel when say, in gear and stopped, or the opposite i.e. when in motion coasting downhill and the gears in neutral.
So my point is, when all is working correctly especially the NPS, every time the brake lights come on and the truck is in motion, the fuel supply to the engine is cut off, therefore providing a fuel saving mode.
But if a defective NPS is bypassed, this will not occur, as the trucks ECU will not know it is in gear, as in coasting.
How long it would take for the fuel savings to catch up to the cost of a new or re-machined NPS, depends how much the brakes are applied.
The dead engine when on the over-run will also have a mild braking effect, giving the brakes an easier time and longer life.
I suspected this was the case and have now confirmed it by accident.
 
Re: Anyone else noticed this? A reason to ensure the NPS is

Wish I had 1/2 your brains Chris :salute:
 
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Re: Anyone else noticed this? A reason to ensure the NPS is

No you don't, I confused myself writing it down!
 
Re: Anyone else noticed this? A reason to ensure the NPS is

chris vince said:
No you don't, I confused myself writing it down!
and i had to read it twice and slowly to get my head around it :lol:

but very good point mate :thumbleft:
 
Re: Anyone else noticed this? A reason to ensure the NPS is

I noticed that year's ago when I tried to power spin the truck with the footbrake on.
Thought of it as more of a hindrance than help, but as Chris says it has obvious benefits.
:thumbright:
 
Re: Anyone else noticed this? A reason to ensure the NPS is

My d22 would cut the fuel when I pressed both the brake and accelerator at the same time after about 1 second even though my NPS was disconnected. Rather annoying when I wanted to brake boost before over taking.
 
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Surely more important is the fact that the resin it cuts the power is to stop the vehicle becoming unstoppable should some fault with the throttle occur. Oh and stops you boiling the brakes as well.
 
Re: Anyone else noticed this? A reason to ensure the NPS is

It seems that the first generation of fly by wire diesels have this throttle cut, however both my common rail navara d40 and bmw do not cut the throttle.
 
Re: Anyone else noticed this? A reason to ensure the NPS is

on the V6 auto, if you start to gain speed coasting down hill and apply the brakes to limit your speed the box drops down a gear to use engine braking
 
Re: Anyone else noticed this? A reason to ensure the NPS is

Are you saying the engine cut out then Chris, or it just dropped to tick over ?
Does yours have cruise.... Sorry, my knowledge on d22 is nil
 
Re: Anyone else noticed this? A reason to ensure the NPS is

Biggi said:
Are you saying the engine cut out then Chris, or it just dropped to tick over ?
Does yours have cruise.... Sorry, my knowledge on d22 is nil
D22 cruise control :lol: :lol: :lol: yes we do we just throw a ball and chain out the back window and hope to god it slows use down :lol: when it does we cut it loose and speed up again, crude but it works well :whistle: :whistle:
 
Re: Anyone else noticed this? A reason to ensure the NPS is

I did notice that if you coast with the clutch down,it idles at close to 1000 rpm, but when you come to a halt, it drops by 100ish rpm..is that linked to what you said Chris?
 
Re: Anyone else noticed this? A reason to ensure the NPS is

My D40 stays at higher revs when coasting, til ya drop to about 20mph I think .... Guessed it was for servo assistance. :dunno
 
Re: Anyone else noticed this? A reason to ensure the NPS is

I disconnected my nps two years ago when it started playing up but the fuel cut still kicks in when left foot braking so cant be down to that can it?
 
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Re: Anyone else noticed this? A reason to ensure the NPS is

Obviously not, that pi**es on my birthday cake then.
 
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Re: Anyone else noticed this? A reason to ensure the NPS is

Hands up time!
I got this one wrong.
After Bounce's post, I had to go out in my truck and tried coasting downhill in neutral, applied and held some throttle at about 2,000rpm, pushed the brake and the fuel was cut off straight away.
So apart from allowing the heat switch to up the revs, I cannot see the point of the NPS.
Anyone got a clue?

Perhaps I should have entitled it "What purpose does a NPS have?" (apart from provide Nissan with an ongoing small fortune!)
 
Re: Anyone else noticed this? A reason to ensure the NPS is

To activate the reversing lamp and/or to activate the "heat" switch next to the drivers door???
 
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Re: Anyone else noticed this? A reason to ensure the NPS is

There is a seperate reversing switch.
 
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