2nd post that i have seen in technical here. Been thinking about this at work and im sure Mr Watchdog would be interested in this. Is winding down the power not admitting the clutch is *****? Is it even legal? Seems to be a classic case of the sale of goods act, you buy something with 171-174 BHP and they detune it possibly to the 140 BHP as on some of the over seas models :roll:
Detuning the engine to save clutch.
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They are nice trucks mate im hoping to make the leap from a D22 to a D40 early next year if funds allow,then the fun can begin :thumbleft:
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I do mate as do you! :thumbright:
Will DTE solve the torque down low :mrgreen:
Say you have two D40, one with reduced torque and one is not.
Both cars fitted with DTE, will the reduced torque performance is the same with the one without reduced torque now?or the one without reduced torque still yields higher torque.
I hope u all get what I mean :cheers2:
Say you have two D40, one with reduced torque and one is not.
Both cars fitted with DTE, will the reduced torque performance is the same with the one without reduced torque now?or the one without reduced torque still yields higher torque.
I hope u all get what I mean :cheers2:
The detune isn't an all encompassing detune across the rev range, merely a reduction in torque up until 2000rpm, at which point the torque curve is allowed to return to its normal position, to, as stated, reduce premature clutch failure. Peak torque and power remain uneffected by this. As said this reduces initial pull away speed, however, it has a f*****g low 1st gear if drag racing from the lights is your thing, and you are over the 2000rpm mark in a couple of seconds, and will still be over it for the shift to 2nd too.....
Of course you could have it put back to the original settings, and let it eat through the clutch quicker than it now will so you can get off the line against the corsa's a bit quicker
Oli
Of course you could have it put back to the original settings, and let it eat through the clutch quicker than it now will so you can get off the line against the corsa's a bit quicker
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oli said:The detune isn't an all encompassing detune across the rev range, merely a reduction in torque up until 2000rpm, at which point the torque curve is allowed to return to its normal position, to, as stated, reduce premature clutch failure. Peak torque and power remain uneffected by this. As said this reduces initial pull away speed, however, it has a f*****g low 1st gear if drag racing from the lights is your thing, and you are over the 2000rpm mark in a couple of seconds, and will still be over it for the shift to 2nd too.....
Of course you could have it put back to the original settings, and let it eat through the clutch quicker than it now will so you can get off the line against the corsa's a bit quicker
Oli
I think the main gripe is the fact the clutch should be able to cope with 300 BHP and 600 pounds of torque, all things are built to cope with over the normal use. If Nissan built bridges :shock: :lol: then say no more. The nav is what? 5 years old now and we still get **** paint and a **** clutch. I honestly believe that if it wasnt such a good looker and the best out there sales would suffer badly.
My old trooper V6 petrol i used to off road a LOT, and anyone who has been off road knows the clutch is given a pounding. What i used to do in the Trooper would kill a nav clutch in 10 mins :thumbright:
The clutch is not up to the standard it should be really, but am i right in thinking everyone seems outraged by the fact the transmission cannot handle a 71.4% bhp increase and a 102% torque increase?Warpa said:oli said:The detune isn't an all encompassing detune across the rev range, merely a reduction in torque up until 2000rpm, at which point the torque curve is allowed to return to its normal position, to, as stated, reduce premature clutch failure. Peak torque and power remain uneffected by this. As said this reduces initial pull away speed, however, it has a f*****g low 1st gear if drag racing from the lights is your thing, and you are over the 2000rpm mark in a couple of seconds, and will still be over it for the shift to 2nd too.....
Of course you could have it put back to the original settings, and let it eat through the clutch quicker than it now will so you can get off the line against the corsa's a bit quicker
Oli
I think the main gripe is the fact the clutch should be able to cope with 300 BHP and 600 pounds of torque, all things are built to cope with over the normal use. If Nissan built bridges :shock: :lol: then say no more. The nav is what? 5 years old now and we still get ***** paint and a ***** clutch. I honestly believe that if it wasnt such a good looker and the best out there sales would suffer badly.
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Mate a nav and a trooper is like chalk and cheese for offroad stats and lets be fair the troopers are hardly known for reliability :roll: I hear what your saying but i gota agree with olis first post :thumbright:
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Rislar said:
Fit a uprated clutch kit??
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They blow engines up mate there pretty well known for it,they are cheap though.Warpa said:
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They blow engines up mate there pretty well known for it,they are cheap though.[/quote:s61uplvc]NAVMAN JOE said:
They blow nothing up, i had two and thrahed the nuts off them on and off road, not one faliure. Needed to buy a new battery for one...dont see the same for the nav just yet.
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:lol: I got no reason to lie mate look up the trooper owners club some of the TF pickups suffred aswell.
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Fairy nuff each to there own mate :thumbright:Warpa said:
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