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According to tech stats it's only 1 second faster to 60 & it's worse on fuel so is the difference really that great to warrant getting one?

I'm assuming these have the single not duplex timing chain as well?
 
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The V6 engined D40 appears to be one of the most reliable. The only recurring issues with it are boost pipes splitting and the occasional EGR valve failure. Nothing major at all. The engine is not related to the YD25 at all and the issue of timing chains has never raised its head at all as far as I am aware.

Real world fuel consumption doesn't appear to be much worse then the YD25 version.

If I could afford to replace my D40, the V6 version would be my choice.
 
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It depends if you are sold on paper statistics or a real-world, back-to-back test!

On paper (2014 Nissan Spec Sheet), the V6 is officially only 1.4 secs faster to 62mph according to Nissan' numbers (thats auto vs auto). Pitted against a manual 2.5, the V6 is 1.8s faster to 62.

In real driving, the differences are much more noticeable say with 40-60, or 50-70 especially against the manual. Hardly a surprise with 22% more torque!

If you are bothered about such things, the V6 is fully loaded, spec-wise. And the autobox is a much better 7-speed adaptive unit compared with the 2.5's 5-speed (as was in 2014). I have tried both - admittedly I tow, but for me it was no brainer - chalk and cheese.

Finally, and without wishing to upset anyone, if you try a 2.5 and a V6 on the same afternoon, you can't help but notice the 4-pot 2.5 sounds and feels like a bag of bolts, while the 6-pot is more like a decent spec saloon car...

In the end, it's a truck most people are buying, and being a bit agricultural is fine, as trucks don't need to be BMWs, and if a tad better MPG is crucial for an owner, stick with a 2.5. I'm light-footed, and get 21-22mpg towing a 4.2t 5th wheel and 34mpg when not towing (I don't live in towns with stop-start traffic) so I have no complaints about fuel consumption. Mind you, my last tank was at €0.99 a litre which helps (or about £3.75 in Brexit pounds :) ).

PS it's a V6, so it has two separate timing chains - one per bank.
 
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I have seen a 2010 one but at £12,000 it's £2,000 more than equivalent 2.5..... I do like the idea of a better engine and would prefer auto and didn't know they had the 7 speed auto in them so that's good.... hmmmm....
 
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Lel said:
I have seen a 2010 one but at £12,000 it's £2,000 more than equivalent 2.5..... I do like the idea of a better engine and would prefer auto and didn't know they had the 7 speed auto in them so that's good.... hmmmm....
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Really depends on what you want your truck for.


In my case, towing a 5th wheel. It is much smoother, the auto 7 speed is great and combined with the V6 gives me better fuel economy and the gear box isn't changing up and down as my 2.5 auto used to.


The 2.5 did the job, but the V6 was worth the money I paid for the benefits gained.
 
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Echoing the above. My 07 Outlaw is still on my drive as I haven't got around to selling it, I use my V6 now.
Yes, the engine and box make it feel very different. In practice the additional power means you are able to be ahead of all the traffic, not struggling to keep up. Fuel consumption on a motorway is better by a good 4mpg, in town it is about 4mpg worse, so overall it can be better.

The rest of the truck is not very different, though the top spec sound system is much better with its base box.
Just remembered the brakes, the V6 has much better braking.
 
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If anyone hears of one for sale 2010-2012 please let me know :)
 
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I think whilst I would prefer the V6, as I can't wait a year for one I'll probably end up with a 2.5..... time will tell....
 
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Well I feel like I can tell my opinion aswell as I've owned both. I will say that the auto 5 speed box is waaaaay smoother than the 7 speed. As freemansteve said, both are very different but I don't agree with one thing (Sorry freemansteve :mrgreen:) Quote: "and if a tad better MPG is crucial for an owner, stick with a 2.5".
I could avarage 29mpg with my 2.5dci and i'm currently 27mpg with my 3.0dci v6. So yes, the 2.5dci will always get a little bit better mpg, but let's get real here, it's not like 30mpg is "economical" :lol:
So if you are worried about mpg, this might not be the type of vehicle for you (although it's still your choice!) :awesomework

So why should you buy a V6, what do you get, that even a fully loaded 2.5dci can't? Well for once, it comes fully loaded (sounds stupid, but second hand you don't have to worry about it), Bose surround system (I like it a lot), v6 badges (to show off ofcourse, why else?), 7 speed not so smoos gearbox (but it can handle the mighty torque) and oh yes, the V9x engine which is awesome except at the petrol station.

If you need a worktruck and don't want to spend that much, go for the 2.5dci. You'll get a fine working truck, a tad better mpg, more money in your pocket and with a remap it will also go fast enough!
If you really want a v6, trust me and wait. I did too, and I bet some of the other members did too! Take your time, and try to get some discount. Either way, good luck with the hunting!
 
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Not sure what you meant by the 2.5 5-speed auto being "smoother"...

Gear shifts on mine are nearly imperceptible - are you sure yours is OK?
 
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freemansteve said:
Not sure what you meant by the 2.5 5-speed auto being "smoother"...

Gear shifts on mine are nearly imperceptible - are you sure yours is OK?
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I would say my experience is the same as Steve's with the Vy Auto box. I would even add the 7 speed is significantly noticeably different to the 2.5 auto box for smoothness and less erratic gear changing when under load.
 
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lookskyward1 said:
Foot to the floor changes are rarely smooth with an auto.
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Honestly - very smooth on mine. I really do have to foot-to-floor on some of the tiny on-ramps on the often-busy A7 down here.

Maybe older design autos can bang, but recent-ish torque converter autos seem to usually slush the change very well with a bit of software help, but I have found DCTs (especially when you go into sport mode) can bang quite alarmingly hard; possibly unavoidable with clutches that you don't want to slip too much!

Maybe the V6 box wears and gets clunky with age? Mine is still relatively low mileage...
 
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Jeff26 said:
It would be very rare I need to use foot to floor, maybe the odd overtake, but that is certainly smoother with the V6 auto gearbox than my previous 2.5., although you do feel the acceleration as it takes off.
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For me, on the other hand, foot to the floor changes are the norm, traffic permitting. Change up point at just under 5,000 rpm is pretty smooth. Not quite as smooth as the ZF box in my wife's Jag she used to have.
 
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