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Redlinemike

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Hi all,as im a newbie please go easy,im however a regular over on mud-club.com,


Anyway to the point...

We are a developer of OEM power upgrade systems & have worked closely with Mitsubishi UK suppling there official power upgrade for the L200's,We are looking to expand into the Nissan market & to assist with our development work we are willing to offer for a limted time a free power upgrade in exchange for the use of your vehicle for the 2 days to develop the product

Im looking for the following vehicles:
Nissan Patrol 3.0 06-07 model
Nissan Pathfinder 2.5 06-07 model
Nissan Navara 2.5 06-07 model
Nissan Xtrail 2.2 dci 06-07 model

If any one has the above could you please get in touch,Im based in fife in scotland & if you could help me out that would be great

Please contact me on 0845 3454045 or PM me

www.dastek.co.uk/powerplug.htm
 
Have a navara, live in Fife.....

BUT its a company vehicle!!!

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr


Steve
 
Mike,
You want to borrow someones car for a couple of days to devlop "plug n' play" power upgrades and have a title "Redlinemike"?

Would "Nice&easymike" not have been more likely to hook customers? :D

Good luck,

Valvebouncedunc
 
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Dunc said:
Mike,
You want to borrow someones car for a couple of days to devlop "plug n' play" power upgrades and have a title "Redlinemike"?

Would "Nice&easymike" not have been more likely to hook customers? :D

Good luck,

Valvebouncedunc
yes but why change usernames as its a new forum im on,stick with what i know :wink:
 
TBH redlinemike, wether or not my truck was my own or company I'm not sure that a power chip would be advisable.

X-trail DCis are notorious for turbo failure and have a recall for turbo/boost sensor/ECU remap/intercooler.

The navara d40 uses a bigger version of this engine and produces a very good 174bhp from 2.5 litres. Pushing this too much would in many owners eyes be very reckless as manufacturers are often pushing the limits themselves as it is.

There is other threads on this group suggesting that piggy-back chips just default the ECU to a backup mode and dont give any benifit.

Im thinking you may be flogging a dead horse.

If, though, you need to have a look at my D40 without actually testing any of your products on it then that can be arranged, albeit only for an hour or so. Cost will only be a supply of tea/coffee/biscuits while I wait and watch.

Steve
 
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Hi Steve,

Thanks for the feedback; it’s always interesting to get the input of the end user.

We have already carried out many conversions on the X-trail with no problems, but as we have just updated our electronics hardware for things such as closed loop feedback EGT (exhaust gas temperature) & switchable maps for different terrains, we require all of these cars again to enable for us to develop the extra strategies.

We have an extensive OEM & works motorsport background, where we have worked with companies such as Mitsubishi (official dealer L200 upgrade) Isuzu (official Greek D-max upgrade) Ford motorsport (various prototype projects) De Tomaso (Guarà 2000) Toyota motorsport (GpN Rally cars) the list goes on. As such we have the skills & knowledge to develop products that allow the greatest improvement in power, torque, economy & driveability, whilst still retaining manufacturer reliability & safety. This is often the reason we are chosen to partner manufactures & our products are offered through the official dealer network (often re-badged) whilst still retaining the manufacturer’s warranty.

Many of the members are probably correct in that majority of the products out there do not offer any gain & often cause problems, this is because the electronic principles employed are very crude & basic & do not work in conjunction with the standard ECU. An issue we face is that whilst those companies are not technically strong, they are very good at marketing, we of course are the other way about, but then our strength is in supplying other tuning companies & large volume manufactures.

If you look at our product range, you will see that we only cover about 35 vehicles as opposed to the hundreds covered by our competitors, but with the amount of time we spend in R&D on each new model, it would be impossible to develop as many products as our competitors, & given that we have all the equipment in house such as CNC pick & place surface mount board manufacturing, optical recognition quality control, wave soldering, in house chassis dynamometers, software/hardware design & manufacture, it makes one wonder how well developed other products are? Another problem we come across is that our results are never as good as what other companies claim they get out of their product, 99% of the time we are better than our competitors despite their claims (as tested back to back on an independent dyno) the remaining 1%, well lets just say I wouldn’t be prepared to run such high EGT’s – a by product of too much fuel and/or the wrong point of injection in my vehicle let alone a customers.

Some of the things that make our product unique are:

Referenced to engine speed (others will make you believe that they have RPM input 99% of units do not)

Referenced to true engine load (others will make you believe that they have load input 99% of units do not)

Referenced to driver demand (Throttle position, again 99% of units do not)

Referenced to engine temperature (in the event of an overheat condition our product will reduce engine output as a safeguard – no other unit has this)

Proper closed loop 3D boost control tables (not a boost increase due to extra fuel being burned as happens with all other units – no other unit has this)

Ability to alter point of injection (the crank angle at which fuel is injected is critical to reducing, fuel consumption, combustion temperature, EGT, soot content & noise – no other unit has this)

Switchable maps for altering torque delivery curve suitable for specific terrains (bluetooth enabled, not some dip switch that changes the overall output – no other unit has this)

True ECU OEM connectors, no scotch locks or soldering, easily removed & a tangible product for re-sale, if you ever change vehicle.

Propane enrichment control

Closed loop EGT control, allowing maximum safe power under any & all load/time conditions

Also our unit is the only product on the market (as far as we are aware) which is legal for use on the public highway, it has an E-mark (look on your healights you will see the symbol) & has passed all EMC testing for automotive applications, this must not be confused with TUV approval, which does not render it legal for use on the public highway in Europe.

Whilst I can’t promise you biscuits I can offer you tea & coffee, & whilst we really require a vehicle for 2 days testing, I would more than welcome you to visit our premises & have a look around & see the type of things we do.

Best regards,



Mike
 
Mike,
I have to confess that if I'd seen that amount of info upfront, I may have been a little less sceptical :)

Couple of questions (which probably show my ignorance).

1. I underastand monitoring of EGT uis a good indicator and control of parameters which influence it is key to protecting the engine. Does the D40 have an EGT sensor as standard? If not, I assume you have to install one in the exhuast manifold or do you tap ito the pipe?

2. Is there any opportunity to display key parameters like EGT in the cab (Like on a Scanguage system). Does the end user have the facility to define what max parmeters are?

3. During your testing, are you starting from scratch or "honing" an existing setup? Is it rolling road (under load)?

4. What kind of gains do you expect to realise? (Based on previous experiences... )

I'm only in Aberdeen....
 
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Dunc said:
Mike,
I have to confess that if I'd seen that amount of info upfront, I may have been a little less sceptical :)

Couple of questions (which probably show my ignorance).

1. I underastand monitoring of EGT uis a good indicator and control of parameters which influence it is key to protecting the engine. Does the D40 have an EGT sensor as standard? If not, I assume you have to install one in the exhuast manifold or do you tap ito the pipe?

2. Is there any opportunity to display key parameters like EGT in the cab (Like on a Scanguage system). Does the end user have the facility to define what max parmeters are?

3. During your testing, are you starting from scratch or "honing" an existing setup? Is it rolling road (under load)?

4. What kind of gains do you expect to realise? (Based on previous experiences... )

I'm only in Aberdeen....

1-The D40 doesn’t have an EGT probe as standard, we would install one into the manifold & then wire it to suit the Powerplug application



2-There is an LCD display system that is available as an extra which can also be used to display the boost aswell along with the EGT’s, peaks, trends etc, however the limits are non adjustable by the end user.



3-The vehicle would be set up on the rolling road & mapped accordingly every 10% of throttle opening @ every 250rpm intervals, to not only give you best power & torque safely, but also best economy under cruise conditions



4-We have now completed the R&D & I am happy to report that we have improved the performance by some 20BHp & 35Ibft of torque, not as impressive as some of our competitors claims, but verifiable on the dyno & safe
 
Have you got a total price?

Presumably you require all vehicles to be fitted at your workshop, due to the addition of the EGT sensor? So no chance for those of us several hundred miles south of Fife...
 
stubeedoo said:
Presumably you require all vehicles to be fitted at your workshop, due to the addition of the EGT sensor? So no chance for those of us several hundred miles south of Fife...
...but for those of us "just up the road"... :D
 
Interesting read this thread
I have bought and tested several units that are out there in the market place and I have finally settled on the Steinbauer ECU, the power out put is unbelievable compared to the other units, there is no ECU emergency failure or limp home mode that I have experienced with the other units this unit is fully re-mappable to suit your needs, unless other units out there that give you full boost and full fuel the minute the turbo cuts in this one will only give you full fuel for 1sec and every sec after that the ecu will drop 1% power , it comes with all the fail safe paramounts that the vehicles ecu has etc etc etc

I paid AU$1175 for my unit that would come close to the ÂŁ399 +vat that you want to charge for your unit
I have also found that units that plug and play so to speak into the CR sensor are just that plug in and play the Steinbauer unit plugs into each individual injector and takes its reading from the accelerator sensor to make it adjustments

I hope to have some dyno print outs you guys soonish

http://www.pbox.cc/index.php?select_lang=uk

Have a look and check it out for your self as these units come with a 30 day free trial period and if you dont like it send it back for a full refund

I did have a 3" mandrel bend exhaust with a free flow muffler as well and I must say its given me at least 1/2 gear better then I used to get
try this one, 6th gear 80kmh and pull out off it with ease
 
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