Who told you that they cost £31000 ?? top retail for the top spec HighLine is £26000 Vat included..and i recon you would get one cheaper than that once its been out for a while :wink:
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Here you go, this was the email from the dealer.

I may have an Amarok becoming available, its the showroom model which is still to come in. Can you tell me if you need a tow bar or not? It is a Highline model in Starlight Blue, with a few extras like Sat Nav, Towbar, Undebody Protection, Exterior pack 2, Load compartment coating and Differential lock-mechanical. Total Cost is £30,817 On the road including VAT


Cheers, John

 

The Amorok will be more expensive that the Navara once you add all the bits you get with the Nav Connect, they will be hoping that the name "VW" will sell it for them. Ive had Nissan pick ups for 20 years with only one major problem on the 2009 D40 which Nissan replaced. The other 3 D40's nothing at all only little niggles that the dealer sorted.

Nissan will sort out the gearbox issue that seems to be on the V6 and when they do it will be the best pick up on the market, I must say though when I first saw the MPG figures offered for the V6 knew it was ******** you are not going to get an economicle V6 on a pick up if it is to be worked as it should be. The new Tekna auto I have IS better on fuel than the 2010 pre-face lift I had so they got that right, and so far this Tekna Auto I have is the best yet.



My opinion's right when the wife's away. :thumbright:

 

My turn fellas.............................
The Nav next to the Ammorak in Bluenavaras pics, I prefer the Nav & as Tucks sez, ''me no like'' & I agree with Keates, i'd also put my money on the new Nav without seing it, it WILL be the best truck on the road when Nissan sort out the niggles.
Thats just my opinion!

Jay

 

The thing to remember is VAG 2.0 TDIs like to pop turbos for fun.

That is just a misconception isn't it?
I had a transporter and my mate still got his and they both have a 2 ltr engine with no probs at all! Seriously, they are proper work horses that we never had probs with. Well that's a lie, my van's passenger window frame collapsed at one point which meant a permanent open window for a while until I got it fixed!! Lol

The way I see it is diesel technology is pretty good nowadays, especially the Germans and to see it in the Amorak is a good thing in my book.

 

I wouldn't buy any car without seeing it and certainly not a Nissan. The only reason we are all so positive about the Nav is because we are all familiar with it already.

I would certainly give the Amarok a go. I think the front grille looks a lot nicer than the Nav, not sure about the wheel arches but it's not a deal breaker for me.

I agree with Spoony, "it will be a decent truck and fit the double cab show truck Market perfectly". If it adequately pulls a horse trailer, I will probably be down to the VW Commercial garage next time because the chances of me giving Nissan any more money is minimal.

 

The VW looks like the result of an illicit liaison on a drunken night out between a Toyota and an Isuzu, regardless of weight advantages when trying to push a vehicle of that height/width through the air the power will feel very lacking in the mid range, wouldn’t be much fun carrying weight or towing. The biggest reason I chose the Nav over its competitors was the V6 engine (only one readily available in UK spec). Although I have no doubt that the quality of the interior stands out in the VW it does look a bit like an afterthought.
I am an owner of V6 Nav (2011) not a dreamer or someone who had one for a week or two and I can safely say that I have no real problems at all, on my last trip down to London from north Wales I took my Nav over my wife’s BMW 330d (2007), not for efficiency clearly but for the pleasure of the drive.
In addition 163bhp out of a bi-turbo 20 litre diesel is pony, shame on you VW
And if any person is having any issues with a V6 Nav, these are issues not standard issue, so go to your Nissan dealer and tell him to sort it because as far as I know all of the V6 0wners on here are happy with their Nav, including engine and gearbox.

 

I agree about the towing issues with the Amorak and it would come down to what I gonna tow.
A loaded horse box or plant trailer will just be too much while a caravan or some other light trailer load would be enough I reckon?!

As for the V6 Navara, I seriously don't see the Amorak as a competitor if you're in the Market for a high end pickup. As for the 190ps models, Yes I do!

 

Most people on here know me pretty well , i was one of the first people to sing the prases of the mighty d40 as I called it on here lol, when this site first started most only had the d22 and just the same as how people are now calling the amarok ugly they did the same and scorned the d40 calling it ugly and resembling a Lego truck lol
Most know I have bought dozens of d40s some with 150k on and some have had very little replaced during these miles ....it's only little annoying things in my experience that plague the nav .
When I first heard a v6 was coming I couldn't wait to get one ,being in the trade I allways pick mine up a few months old through the dealers , so when I did finally get one I was left a little underwelmed , like I said might of been the one I had but the feed back I get from here and through the trade is pretty much the same as how I found the v6 ., it's just my own experience , others "might be different ! ;-)

 

Shame if you had a dud and its made your mind up about the V6 but my experience is a good one, I drove an L200 Animal before the Nav Outlaw so in fairness the "bar" was set very low but I love the Nav. I have owned various BMW diesels (all from new) 320d, 330d, 530d and my Mrs still has the 330d and given the choice I choose my Nav, obviously not for speed or economy but for the drive. I am driving to Stuttgart in my Nav this summer to visit our parent company and I will take the VW out again as my first experience of it earlier this year was not good, I thought my L200 Animal was better, but it was not the top of the range it was a test vehicle painted like a zebra at the Porsche test track.

 

I still think the Nav looks 'as hard as a coffin nail' parked up in that pick

+ chrome mirrors, the only bit of bling you need :salute:

 

I can’t say that I am at all taken by the look of the VW it looks a bit half assed, all smooth, docile looking and aerodynamic at the front and all boxy and square at the back, it’s all very well boasting bench mark economy but does anyone really buy a pickup truck for economy?
Just a tree hugging VW employee given the job of getting into the only area of automotive transport they are not yet in. Stick in one of their famous W12’s and we could have a contender.

 

A VW Anorak overtook my on the M5 this morning and it didnt look any larger than a Nav. it was almost along side a hilux for a direct comparison in size. There was very little in it to be honest, with bigger wheels and a bit of bling the Nav would appear larger in my opinion.

 

A VW Anorak overtook my on the M5 this morning and it didnt look any larger than a Nav. it was almost along side a hilux for a direct comparison in size. There was very little in it to be honest, with bigger wheels and a bit of bling the Nav would appear larger in my opinion.

Sorry mate i dont think so :lol:

 

I had a test drive about 2 weeks ago. First thing i noticed walking around the Amarok was that it seemed big, especially at the back. The top of the tail gate was right up near my shoulder, probably 3 or 4 inches higher than ther NAV. Just seemed bigger, not sure if you also sit higher than in the Nav.

I was expected to be blown away after reading what new owners are saying on http://www.vwamarokforum.net/. I had read about car like plush interior but i didn't think the plastics were that much of an improvement. The dash was more advanced, advising you what gear to be in, etc. Whilst out on the drive i got the dash readout on the mpg setting but it jumped about like crazy, 2mpg then 100mpg then back to 2 so i didn't get to see actual figures rather than the published data. The steering was noticable light which was more car like. As for the ride, well on main roads it was fine but once i went on a small B road it was fidgety. I know all ton pickups have to compromise on this but it was no better than my Nav or my Dads 2010 Nav, perhaps even a bit worse. Finally the gear change was very "notchy", it may well get better as it beds in but it didn't drop into gear smoothly. Power delivery was more continuous than my Nav (2006 Euro 3) which has a narrow band but the Amarok felt slightly sluggish at times.

The Nav's build quality is a bug bear for me. What with issues for the Paint, Clutches, Driveshaft UJ's, squeeks etc i thought the Amarok may have to be my next truck. After the test drive i wasn't so convinced of jumping ship especially with the uncertainty of when you can get one and what it will cost. The dealer i went to had 10 allocated this year but all were sold. They had 30 allocated next year but couldn't say when they would arrive. Also, because it's so far off they couldn't give me trade in price for my Nav. So basically you have to give them a deposit, wait a year or more then find out they are gonna screw you on the trade in. Basic prices look similar to the Nav but absolutely no discount off the list price and the extra's are dearer. (They want over £500 for delivery!)

Overall i'm still condering the Amarok but i'm not rushing in.

 

They look pretty awesome, a bit American truck-esque.

They don't have reverse sensors or cameras though! And the gears are SO loud and clicky (that might have just been the one I've been in?)

Interior is nice looking though (so hard not to negatively compare and not 'diss' other pickups...)

 

The VW does look a bit wider, and taller - infact, with roofbars (which I wouldn't be without), I doubt it'd fit in many multi-storey car parks :!: :!:

:scratch: :scratch:

 

A VW Anorak overtook my on the M5 this morning and it didnt look any larger than a Nav. it was almost along side a hilux for a direct comparison in size. There was very little in it to be honest, with bigger wheels and a bit of bling the Nav would appear larger in my opinion.

Sorry mate i dont think so :lol:

Garry, the facts

Anorak dimensions in mm

Length 5254
Height 1834
Width 1944 (due to silly wheel arches)

D40

Length 5220
Height 1777
Width 1850


Hardly a giant when compared......

 

A whole new Nav isn't that far away now, which is probably great timing from Nissan, and if they've listened to what owners want from a truck, i don't think the Amarok will be too much of a threat in the future? :wink:

 

I had a test drive about 2 weeks ago. First thing i noticed walking around the Amarok was that it seemed big, especially at the back. The top of the tail gate was right up near my shoulder, probably 3 or 4 inches higher than ther NAV. Just seemed bigger, not sure if you also sit higher than in the Nav.

I was expected to be blown away after reading what new owners are saying on http://www.vwamarokforum.net/. I had read about car like plush interior but i didn't think the plastics were that much of an improvement. The dash was more advanced, advising you what gear to be in, etc. Whilst out on the drive i got the dash readout on the mpg setting but it jumped about like crazy, 2mpg then 100mpg then back to 2 so i didn't get to see actual figures rather than the published data. The steering was noticable light which was more car like. As for the ride, well on main roads it was fine but once i went on a small B road it was fidgety. I know all ton pickups have to compromise on this but it was no better than my Nav or my Dads 2010 Nav, perhaps even a bit worse. Finally the gear change was very "notchy", it may well get better as it beds in but it didn't drop into gear smoothly. Power delivery was more continuous than my Nav (2006 Euro 3) which has a narrow band but the Amarok felt slightly sluggish at times.

The Nav's build quality is a bug bear for me. What with issues for the Paint, Clutches, Driveshaft UJ's, squeeks etc i thought the Amarok may have to be my next truck. After the test drive i wasn't so convinced of jumping ship especially with the uncertainty of when you can get one and what it will cost. The dealer i went to had 10 allocated this year but all were sold. They had 30 allocated next year but couldn't say when they would arrive. Also, because it's so far off they couldn't give me trade in price for my Nav. So basically you have to give them a deposit, wait a year or more then find out they are gonna screw you on the trade in. Basic prices look similar to the Nav but absolutely no discount off the list price and the extra's are dearer. (They want over £500 for delivery!)

Overall i'm still condering the Amarok but i'm not rushing in.

The best comparison so far above ~ well done Billybob, not trying to convince anyone which is best, but giving a genuine opinion. :thumbright:

The VW does look a bit wider, and taller - infact, with roofbars (which I wouldn't be without), I doubt it'd fit in many multi-storey car parks :!: :!:

:scratch: :scratch:

That Nav in the picture has had a lift aswell...and it still looks tiny compared to the Amaorak.....Can't wait to see the New Nav/Pathy :thumbleft:

 

Not sure the angle in the pic helps? the Nav is at an angle going to the right, and the VW is closer and straight on?

 

A couple more pics showing the size difference.....

I conclude that both are definately bigger than the wheel barrow in pic 1 :mrgreen:

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Looks bigger, but not much wider from the rear

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The thing to remember is VAG 2.0 TDIs like to pop turbos for fun.

That is just a misconception isn't it?
I had a transporter and my mate still got his and they both have a 2 ltr engine with no probs at all! Seriously, they are proper work horses that we never had probs with. Well that's a lie, my van's passenger window frame collapsed at one point which meant a permanent open window for a while until I got it fixed!! Lol

The way I see it is diesel technology is pretty good nowadays, especially the Germans and to see it in the Amorak is a good thing in my book.

My friend at work has had two pop now so I'm not so sure it's made up. When I looked at buying an Audi A3 2.0 tdi the net and forums were full of turbo problems and loads of the adds listed new turbo fitted.

 

Have VW made the Amarok bigger looking to try and sell it in USA :?:

 

A couple more pics showing the size difference.....

I conclude that both are definately bigger than the wheel barrow in pic 1 :mrgreen:

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Looks bigger, but not much wider from the rear

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Yeah looks quite a bit higher, but the Nav is not the highest of it's class, the Hilux always looks very high to me, apparently Nissan designed the Nav to have a low bed/tailgate for ease of loading and unloading. Personaly i would prefer higher, hope the new Nav is high and wide

 

. Personaly i would prefer higher, hope the new Nav is high and wide

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Don`t know about the higher loading on to the bed, I am starting to feel the weight of a compaction plate lifting it in and out of the back of my d22 and the plate is only 165 pounds :scratch: