[homers double]

http://www.the-ace.org.uk/armageddon/

 

[Guest]

As a haulier I'm asked for my input in part of this new legislation. Myself and other hauliers are on with drafting our conclusions to some of the newly advised and proposed changes.
This is right from cars to caravans/trailers and trucks (Hgv)
Ill get together what I can and post it in here when I get time.
We get monthly updates from Vosa so I did know about this.
As far as I'm aware nothing is set in stone yet, more a debate, but as usual they'll do what they want anyway :wedgie

 

[Lil'Trucker!]

We're all gonna be commies in a few years, it's a ******* disgrace!

 

[D40-Outlaw]

The thing about EU laws is, Britain usually tells Europe to get lost if it doesn't suit them whilst Ireland just takes it up the **** trying to ball lick the European big cats. This won't go ahead, it will bust to many industries and is impossible to enforce, i mean if i put on some valeo window wipers instead of the Bosch type the car came out of the factory with, technically the car is modified thus illegal

 

[Guest]

:bsflagfacts Incorrect.
That would be a replacement part but of the same specification as manufacture.
A single wiper conversation would be a modification.

 

[Guest]

As promised, this part of the list that is relevant to most of us. These and other proposals are part of the discussion at the moment. It's not open to public as far as I'm aware, trade & professional bodies only to give feedback. This list is not conclusive or in order, ive just picked out a few.

The Department for Transport (DfT) urgently requests your feedback regarding the new Roadworthiness Package proposed by the EU Commission on 13 July 2012. The proposal contains two new Regulations and a supporting amending Directive relating to roadworthiness testing and roadside checks.
  
 
DfT appreciate the complexity and scale of the package, so have produced a spreadsheet summarising the key items that may concern you and to which you can add your comments for feedback. 
  
This is a DfT consultation, not a VOSA initiative. Do not reply to this email.
 
1) proposal to bring all trailers capable of more than 40kph into scope of periodic testing. This includes all currently exempt trailers below 3,500 kgs (including caravans).
2)proposal to bring motorcycles into scope of periodic testing. This is already done in GB but will become a requirement EU wide. It will add analysis of exhaust fumes.
3)proposal to bring motorcycles into scope of periodic testing. This is already done in GB but will become a requirement EU wide. It will add analysis of exhaust fumes.
4)proposal to change the definition of an Historic Vehicle that may be exempt from periodic testing. This may allow vehicles older than 30 years to be exempt from testing providing the vehicle has been maintained in its original condition, including its appearance.
5)proposal that all vehicles must be subject to periodic testing except historic vehicles, forces and emergency vehicles, agricultural vehicles limited to less than 40kph and specialist funfair/circus vehicles limited to 40kph.
6)proposal that new tests and testing equipment are introduced. The equipment details are contained in Annex V of the proposed Periodic Testing Regulation. New elements include testing of brake fluid, light intensity, shock absorber testers, changes to brake testing equipment and a number of others.
7)proposal that all Member States make it compulsory for odometer distances to be shown on test certificates and that tampering with an odometer becomes an offence subject to a penalty.
8 )proposal to introduce definitions of severity into test. Minor defects would result in a test failure but would not prevent a certificate being issued. (The vehicle owner is expected to correct the failure without needing to have it re-confirmed by the tester).
9) proposal that in the case where a vehicle has dangerous defects discovered at test, that the vehicle shall not be used on public roads and the registration of the vehicle must be withdrawn until the defects are rectified.
10)proposal that all vehicle manufacturers will make available to test centres all technical data covered by the Certificate of Conformity. (As per annex I of the draft Periodic Testing Regulation). (Vehicle manufacturers includes makers of any non rail bourne motor vehicle or trailer).

 

[ahtyrrell2]

To be honnest cant see a problem with anything on that list Biggi
The laws i have see say modifications are acceptable providing that some sort of inspection is carried out afterwards whitch i think is perfectly reasonable, help keep the dangerously modified vehciels off the road we have all seen old bangers with body kits half hanging off and shap edges everywere

 

[Guest]

There ya go see, there are ones like you that are thinking the same as us (me an my mates-trade/ex trade) we don't have a problem with most the stuff. Many will kick off.. decats, DPF deletes, Ecu changes will get attacked though, the law quite clearly states now that altering any emission control devices on a road going vehicle is illegal. There's talk of impounding /crushing illegal vehicles if a revert is not implemented. So people that have chipped, deleted an gutted are gonna be gutted lol.
I'll update all with anything else I get and try answer any questions if people don't understand... Not everyone's technically minded.

 

[neillp]

Say that again in English Biggi..... :eekout :lol:

 

[D40-Outlaw]

so how would the tester know my cat is gutted? or if a car is remapped how would they know?

 

[Guest]

Cats easy to test, they can do that now. If they see anything out of ordinary they'll test it.
Chances of them finding map is pretty much nil at the mo. don't think they will ever go that far.