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Limp mode after cruising at 30mph

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#1 ·
My truck is a 2011, 190 D40 Tekna, just under three weeks old with 3000 miles on the clock. Completely stock engine. Twice in the last week, after cruising at 30mph for a few minutes, it seems to have gone into limp mode.

First time, I was stuck behind a lorry doing about 25-30mph for about two miles until we hit a hill with a climbing lane. When I moved out to pass, I had no power to go. I dropped a gear (to third) thinking I was in too high a gear for it to pull, but that was no better. I didn't plant the throttle down hard, only about half way down initially, then floored it when I was getting no response. I struggled past him, and pulled in at the first place where it was safe, switched off the engine, started it again, and everything was fine.

Same thing happened today, I was in a 30mph limit, ticking along in 4th with cruise control on. Slowed down approaching traffic lights, but they turned green as I approached. When I put a bit of power in, I thought I could feel again that there wasn't much there, so I gave it a good poke to check it, and sure enough limp mode again.

There was no engine management light on. In fourth at about 30mph, when I blipped the throttle, it would pull a bit with a torquey grunt, but when I dropped to 3rd, and revs went above 1500rpm, there was almost no reaction. Is that what limp mode feels like?

I clutched, killed the engine, switched the keys back on, let the clutch in and it went back to normal.

I read what posts I could find about D40s going into limp mode, but they all seemed to have the problem under harsh acceleration, or with a fault showing on the dash. I'll put the OBD on tomorrow when I have time to see if there are any codes showing.

Any ideas what this could be? I obviously want to bring this to the dealer's attention asap, but I'd prefer to go into them telling them what the problem is, rather than asking them to look for it.

Thanks in advance.
 
#2 ·
My dads did exactly the same and his is a 2011 190bhp!

He had been cruising at low speeds then went to put foot down, and boom lack of power

Got it to the garage and fault code P0102 MAF sensor/circuit even though there was no engine light

gessing dealer replaced or reset it and been fine since. strange it happened when weather was warm!
 
#3 ·
I put my OBD on it yesterday and found nothing. I'm at my local Nissan dealer for an early oil change today ( I believe in an early oil change on a new engine) and they've found nothing in the diagnostics either. :( I'd prefer if they had, because then at least I'd have a solid problem to fix. I hate intermittent problems.

I took out my MAF sensor yesterday, checked that there was no dirt or anything on it. Check the wiring etc. Found nothing. All I can do is wait and see if it happens again. At least I have it on record with Nissan that the problem was occurring this early.
 
#4 ·
My dads has been fine ever since, might have just been a bug in the system??

Thing is when i check for the faults with my mate OBD reader, the code wasnt under stored faults, it came under pending faults.

so i cleared the P0102 MAF sensor/circuit fault and then unplugged the maf sensor while the engine was running with the OBD reader still plugged in and the same fault came up again along with P0113 with is the air temp sensor which is part of the maf sensor on the nav and again they stored the faults in "pending faults" on the reader.
 
#5 ·
Just an update on this.

Andy, after you mentioned the MAF sensor, I pulled it off, looked at it. Checked the connections etc. and put it all back together. I've nearly 5000 miles on the clock now and it hasn't happened since. (Touch wood!)

So, hopefully it was just that the connector wasn't seated properly or something. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction.

:thumbright:
 
#6 ·
I spoke too soon! :(

On Thursday (day after last post), it happened again. Luckily, I was only 7-8 miles from a good Nissan dealer I know of,so I swung around and headed for there. I kept the engine running to keep it in limp mode. The mechanic took it for a run, and kept it in the garage for about an hour without switching it off. He then took it for another run, and restarted it before turning back to the garage.

The diagnostics brought up the code P102B. I couldn't find this code anywhere on the site, but all of the codes with 102 in them seem to be MAF related. The mechanic told me that it was something to do with exhaust, but that it was caused by the MAF sensor. He said that after restarting, the MAF sensor was reading much higher than it was before.

So I've got my local Nissan garage to order a new MAF sensor and they'll fit it once it has come in. Hopefully, that will be it sorted.

It's good to actually find a problem when you have a problem. :thumbright:
 
#8 ·
Thanks, but that's only in the Autos. Mine's Manual. Also, all my driving is long distance, so the DPF should have plenty of chance to clear itself.

Although, now that I think about it, it makes sense after cruising at low speed. I did ask the dealer if the new Manuals still didn't have a DPF and he told me no. I'll bear it in mind.
 
#12 ·
GreaseDonkey said:
Once you replace the pressure control valve at the fuel pump it should clear the problem, if not, the fuel rail will have to be replaced too.
This isn't the same problem as the pressure control valve problem. I've been into the dealer since with it. The error code P102B is the exhaust temperature sensor. I'm waiting for one to come in now, but the mechanic said he doesn't think it's the problem. He got Nissan to check world wide for similar problems. There have been two. One in Switzerland, which was caused by corroded ground wires. He has checked over my whole truck, and that's not what's causing mine. The other one is in New Zealand. They've changed exhaust temp sensor, turbo, MAF sensor, still not solved. They've no idea what's wrong with that one. I hope mine doesn't work out the same. :(
 
#13 ·
tadhgocuilleain said:
GreaseDonkey said:
Once you replace the pressure control valve at the fuel pump it should clear the problem, if not, the fuel rail will have to be replaced too.
This isn't the same problem as the pressure control valve problem. I've been into the dealer since with it. The error code P102B is the exhaust temperature sensor. I'm waiting for one to come in now, but the mechanic said he doesn't think it's the problem. He got Nissan to check world wide for similar problems. There have been two. One in Switzerland, which was caused by corroded ground wires. He has checked over my whole truck, and that's not what's causing mine. The other one is in New Zealand. They've changed exhaust temp sensor, turbo, MAF sensor, still not solved. They've no idea what's wrong with that one. I hope mine doesn't work out the same. :(
I know it is niether the pressure cont valve or the ex temp sensor I have had one in my workshop all last week. The fault is intermitant and difficult to reproduce.I have fitted the customers vehicle with a VI and set it up to record data when the fault occurs and returned it back to him. Nissan technical are eager to read the data so they can find a fix for this fault.They beleive it is a ECM mapping issue but are not entirley sure yet until they have colated all the information.
ps this one is in Australia :sunny:
 
#17 ·
kevturner said:
i have same problem, happened 3 times now.2011 model. In dealer yesterday, cant find anyhing or a code. So next time takn it straight to garage in limp mode
Mine's the same. The codes don't show unless the truck is still in limp mode. The EML doesn't come on during the problem, and after a restart, all traces of the problems disappear.

pete800r said:
I have this lim mode problem the first time i was doing 60 mph with no power flat out at 60
had it checked at dealer no fault found or code
it as now happened three times now on motorways lost power but will hold at 60 mph .
anyone throw any light on this..
plus where do the codes come up
Codes show up on the On Board Diagnostic tool that the dealer plugs into the truck. On the motorway, mine maxed out at 71mph, struggling to get there.
 
#18 ·
tadhgocuilleain said:
kevturner said:
i have same problem, happened 3 times now.2011 model. In dealer yesterday, cant find anyhing or a code. So next time takn it straight to garage in limp mode
Mine's the same. The codes don't show unless the truck is still in limp mode. The EML doesn't come on during the problem, and after a restart, all traces of the problems disappear.

pete800r said:
I have this lim mode problem the first time i was doing 60 mph with no power flat out at 60
had it checked at dealer no fault found or code
it as now happened three times now on motorways lost power but will hold at 60 mph .
anyone throw any light on this..
plus where do the codes come up
Codes show up on the On Board Diagnostic tool that the dealer plugs into the truck. On the motorway, mine maxed out at 71mph, struggling to get there.
Hi Matey, have the dealers told you what it is yet, as my dads is playing up again and is now giving the same fault code as you!! Cut out on him 4 times today and the code is P102B. again got this code using my mate reader, and the fault was stored under "pending faults" and not "stored faults". no Lights on the dash either.....
 
#20 ·
Hi guys, been a little while since I've posted on here but ran into some trouble with my Navara again. Sounds the same problem, sticks around 60mph on motorway flat out, limp to services and turn it off for a couple of minutes. Start it up again and away I go. Its happened 6 times now but becoming more frequent. Had it in at Nissan a month or so ago and they also said they cannot find a problem and haven't heard of any others with the same problems. Its in again for its 36k service on saturday and they are looking into this again. If they come up with anything I'll let you know but also if anyone else finds the issue thats causing it can you let me know, much appreciated chaps :)
 
#22 ·
Took my truck to the garage and they said it was a glitch. Apparently if u use the speed limiter sometimes it remembers, even if you have not switched it on and will not let you past the "set" speed.

Simple solution is to switch off, then switch back on.

My dealer also reset the limiter on my truck to zero uses. So far so good.
 
#23 ·
Trouble is that there are a few people on here who have done the switch off then on routine it cures it for a while then comes back, but non mention resetting the limiter to zero uses.

How many miles since yours last did it, and have you used the limiter since (which I might add is a totally stupid addition considering they removed the increase tickover speed switch)

:cheers2:
 
#24 ·
Jkeegan said:
Hi guys, been a little while since I've posted on here but ran into some trouble with my Navara again. Sounds the same problem, sticks around 60mph on motorway flat out, limp to services and turn it off for a couple of minutes. Start it up again and away I go. Its happened 6 times now but becoming more frequent. Had it in at Nissan a month or so ago and they also said they cannot find a problem and haven't heard of any others with the same problems. Its in again for its 36k service on saturday and they are looking into this again. If they come up with anything I'll let you know but also if anyone else finds the issue thats causing it can you let me know, much appreciated chaps :)
Hi Mate

Has your limp mode problem been sorted yet :?:
 
#26 ·
I have only had my truck for 2 weeks, but have now done just over 1k miles. The truck is second hand and had already covered 2k miles. The glitch happended once.

When the garage scanned the truck with the laptop it showed the limiter had been used once and it certainly was not set by me. The garage reset the limiter use to zero and there has not been a problem since. They also checked for software updates for the ECU but there were not any.

Fingers crossed.