[slick66]

good morning,
Just bought a nissan navara outlaw 05 plate had it a month,done 685 miles( mileage 77000) on way to carnforth (west coast uk)when con rod decided to puncture a hole in the engine.full mot ,full service bought it from toyota/lexus used car garage in bradford,who after a couple of days picked it up from rrg toyota in bolton,left a nice pool of oil on forecourt!!
I have a 3 month warranty on the nissan will i be covered,is it classed as a major mechanical failure or will the garage try and wriggle out of their obligation,i did my research before buying the car and i cannot remember seeing the article about the infamous d22 engine destroying itself,i am now led to believe that nissan are actually aware of this problem with the con rods which i find unbelievable that they haven't issued a recall, we were lucky in one respect that the oil (loads of it) didn't cause an accident to following vehicles.
No warning doing a steady 60 mph suddenly BANG, oil everywhere..
any suggestions????
hopefully my used car toyota warranty will cover me otherwise i'm in **** street

 

[Lil'Trucker!]

Hi and welcome, sorry to hear of your missfortune, have a read in the D22 Tech section, there's a mountain of info on the subject:

viewforum.php?f=3

I would certainly expect the seller to honour the warranty :wink:

 

[Kasey]

Seller will have a job getting out of the warranty by saying it is fair wear and tear as it is a known problem / fault

 

[Kasey]

My nippers mrs had similar on her pug 306,dealer huffed an puffed but just goto trading standards website there's a letter to download with full instruction on how to use it,hopefully it won't come to that!
Don't just let them bung another used engine in or it'll happen again!

Unfortunately, another 2nd had unit might have to be accepted, because if the put a new one or rebuild this one he will be in a better position than he was with the original. In civil law there is something called 'betterment' and if he is into that that they have to right to ask him to pay for that 'betterment'. That does not mean the whole cost of repair though. Start with asking for everything, but dont expect to not pay for any of it, depending on what you end up with.

 

[lookskyward1]

I would have thought written warranty or not, you would have a good claim against the dealer.

Good luck


PS Slick66, try some Slick50 in the new engine when it arrives :fingersx

 

[Kasey]

I would have thought written warranty or not, you would have a good claim against the dealer.

Good luck

X2

 

[slick66]

Thanks for the info.
will keep you all posted.
garage gonna ring me monday to see where i stand ( on the hard shoulder you Basxxxds)
All they told me on friday was that something had perforated the engine....

 

[pdfisher]

How much is a total recond engine from bill car? Might be worth bunging some towards one them than just one from a scrapyard

X2 if it comes from bilcar you know it's going to be good

 

[Kasey]

How much is a total recond engine from bill car? Might be worth bunging some towards one them than just one from a scrapyard

X2 if it comes from bilcar you know it's going to be good

But that's a last resort. Needs to hear dealer offer first.
If dealer only offers a scrappy replacement then apart from rejecting the idea, could then say put toward a proper BNillcar one.

 

[pdfisher]

Good point say to dealer get it fixed buy the way it's going bilcar to be fixed and your going to pay for it

 

[Kasey]

Good point say to dealer get it fixed buy the way it's going bilcar to be fixed and your going to pay for it

Excellent idea, definitely worth a try.

 

[slick66]

Just rang billcar engineering who quoted £2500+ VAT ,3000 then,might try to go down that line,they upgrade all the ***** bits nissan should have done in the first place...
will wait to see what toyota bradford say when they ring me ,hopefully today..
thanks for the advice guys...
the last thing i want is for them to bung another recon engine in with the same **** in it.
Can't believe i have an 05 ,77000 mile car which i am paying for,for 5 years,and the engine is on a workshop floor,NISSAN SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF THEMSELVES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[D40-Outlaw]

get the garage to replace the engine with an engine with normal parts then go to bill car and have the mods carried out.

 

[diggerman]

Once you know what the garage wanna do,just ask em for a cheque towards bill cars engine

The garage would be silly not to do that as it would transfer any liability for the replacement engine to Bilcar, once bitten twice shy sort of thing, as obviously they would have to stand over any work they did.

 

[slick66]

Right ,garage rang me last night, admitted it was the con rod problem,they reckon that the toyota used car warranty will only fit a NEW engine at a cost of £8000,as my truck cost shy of £6000 i can't see them agreeing to that. He then said they (garage) will fit a recon with the modified bits at a cost of roughly £2000, i got the impression the onus will be on me to cough that up.
Been in touch with trading standards the reckon IF it can't be sorted out to go down the SALE OF GOODS ACT,basically to repair,replace or refund.
I asked the guy at the garage about the possibility of billcar doing the work etc , i'd even pay for the truck to be shipped down to shrewsbury!!! but he seemed reluctant to do that,even though billcar offered to deal with the garage directly.
Seems a no brainer to me,i'd be quite happy for a recon modified engine to be put in , i'm happy (to a point) the garage's reputation is intact and the warranty company are only shelling out a fraction of the cost of a new engine..
Still stand by my words tho....................
NISSAN YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELVES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[lookskyward1]

Been in touch with trading standards the reckon IF it can't be sorted out to go down the SALE OF GOODS ACT,basically to repair,replace or refund.

You said it, don't pussy foot around with the dealer.

They either fix the problem (to your satisfaction) or give you a refund., in which case you can buy another truck knowing the pitfalls.

 

[slick66]

Garage rang today to say an engineer is coming out tomorrow to look at truck...........here's hoping!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[slick66]

Update.....
Just had a phone call from the warranty people, the £8000 NEW engine is a non starter(not literally) they have suggested a possible £5700 refund or maybe billcar fitting a recon modified engine,they are gonna get back to me .Seemed st suggest that it was up to me... SHOW ME THE MONEY!!!!!!!!.

 

[Phoenix]

Been watching this thread, you dont want the refund bud, if they gonna pay for Billcar to do your bottom end, then get it done, that truck will run for flipping years without a load of hassle. besides, you always have this lot to fall on in times of distress!

We all guarentee Bottom end WILL NOT fail if Billcar do the mod :thumbright:

You'll have the trustworthiness of the Mk1 & the facelift of the Mk2.

 

[challengejeep]

DEFINATELY GO FOR BILLCAR OPTION.....
They are bloody marvellous....