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#1,023 ·
marsie said:
My 57 plate outlaw has been to the local dealers today and failed :( . There is now a small hole on the passenger rail between the gussets for the tub mount (there was no hole there before today so they must have been giving it some prodding!!)

they gave me the car back and told me that Nissan will be in touch within the week. So will have a few days wondering if the £1000-1500 i have spent on it since i got it has been a waste of money :(
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Sorry to hear that mate, hope they come back with some good news. It seems to be the case now they get shipped to Spain, from reading other peoples experiences on here?
 
#1,024 · (Edited)
Had a phone call from Nissan today saying they would like to repair the car. They will need it for 6 weeks and give me a new navara while mine is away. Apparently i will be getting some paperwork from Nissan with details of what they are going to do. The only downside is that i need to remove the lift kit i fitted last weekend :dunno but i can live with that. At least the bolts won't be seized :)

anyone any idea of what the "repair" consists of? Cant see it being cost effective for Nissan to ship the cars all the way to spain for a plate welding on when there are people more than capable of welding here in the uk?
 
#1,025 · (Edited)
marsie said:
Cant see it being cost effective for Nissan to ship the cars all the way to spain for a plate welding on when there are people more than capable of welding here in the uk?
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Yeah, but wage rates in the UK are way too expensive for basic skills, while transport remains cheap - even to Spain. The over-paid wage thing (or as the politicians call it "productivity") is surely one of the major benefits of Brexit, and will get corrected?

I'd be guessing Nissan have done their sums.... It may be about tooling and jigs too...


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I only know what it costs us to get a landrover chassis to spain:surprise:. I would expect the complete exercise including 6 weeks of free courtesy car, delivery to and from spain and whatever work they do to cost at least a few grand per car. If its just for a couple of plates welding on then i think it would pay for a hell of a lot of welding even at UK prices. The jigs are easy enough to make especially if they are expecting the amount of rectification work that nissan are likely to have

Has anyone on here had their car over to spain and got it back yet that can report on what was done while it was away?
 
#1,027 · (Edited)
marsie said:
I only know what it costs us to get a landrover chassis to spain:surprise:. I would expect the complete exercise including 6 weeks of free courtesy car, delivery to and from spain and whatever work they do to cost at least a few grand per car. If its just for a couple of plates welding on then i think it would pay for a hell of a lot of welding even at UK prices. The jigs are easy enough to make especially if they are expecting the amount of rectification work that nissan are likely to have

Has anyone on here had their car over to spain and got it back yet that can report on what was done while it was away?
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I imagine one-off shipping is expensive, but Nissan probably have existing contracts for shipping 10's of thousands of vehicles between UK and EU each year and may be able to get price leverage off that. Besides, I bet the labour cost for strip down and rebuild is more than the weld/repair costs . And you have to allow for the cash they are paying owners for scrapping....

I'm only speculating as to why Nissan might do it that way; there must be a reason.
 
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I would imagine its a new chassis as welding and plating is not a method I would accept on this one . Lets face it if its just taking off the back to weld on some plates thats an hour tops and thats what they do for the painting job anyhow and the body shops doing that are quite capable of welding,there would be no reason to take them back to spain for that . I would be interested to know if they have devised a way of totally replacing the rear chassis section by cutting at a non critical point and welding the new one in ,this would avoid having to totally strip out the front end which is the awkward bit.The only reservation I would have under that scenario is what about the front end as logic would say they are just as likely to corrode but may be longer showing up as less stress up that end. Im guessing this has been brought about by Nissan suddenly realising how many are being total loses and the money crunchers stepping in.
 
#1,029 ·
marsie said:
Had a phone call from Nissan today saying they would like to repair the car. They will need it for 6 weeks and give me a new navara while mine is away. Apparently i will be getting some paperwork from Nissan with details of what they are going to do. The only downside is that i need to remove the lift kit i fitted last weekend :dunno but i can live with that. At least the bolts won't be seized :)

anyone any idea of what the "repair" consists of? Cant see it being cost effective for Nissan to ship the cars all the way to spain for a plate welding on when there are people more than capable of welding here in the uk?
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In a way good news, it give me hope that if they do find something wrong on the 18th Dec, my truck isn't doomed to the scrapheap.

Also sounds like Nissan have got their **** together and sorted out a plan, shame there must be hundreds of scrapped Nav's which could have been saved.

Enjoy the the new Nav Marsie !!
 
#1,030 ·
Its definitely good news. I know that i have far too much money in the navara already with the repairs i have had do ,so if they were still offering buy backs i would probably be well and truly out of pocket. If its a complete chassis replacement i will be very happy

I replace complete chassis for a living on Landrovers and know that patching them will only delay the inevitable failure for so long.

I guess the fact that they are loaning out new navaras to customers is a clever move by nissan. Many people (including me) may decide that they don't want their old car back after 6 weeks and decide to buy the loan car :)
 
#1,031 ·
marsie said:
Its definitely good news. I know that i have far too much money in the navara already with the repairs i have had do ,so if they were still offering buy backs i would probably be well and truly out of pocket. If its a complete chassis replacement i will be very happy

I replace complete chassis for a living on Landrovers and know that patching them will only delay the inevitable failure for so long.

I guess the fact that they are loaning out new navaras to customers is a clever move by nissan. Many people (including me) may decide that they don't want their old car back after 6 weeks and decide to buy the loan car :)
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I am holding off doing anything until after the inspection.

Handy to know about Landrovers, my mate has 2 :)

Defo a good marketing ploy.
 
#1,032 ·
Had the paperwork through from Nissan. Basically they are shipping the car to spain for a rear "exoskeleton to be fitted to the chassis"

Have got to remove the lift kit and have it re-inspected to make sure its off before they will do it. Took the lift kit off yesterday and the car is back in for inspection on wednesday so maybe get it away to spain before christmas
 
#1,035 ·
So my Nav went in for an inspection today at Nissan Aylesbury.

They took photos and have sent paperwork off to Nissan, initial feedback was chassis was very clean and overall well looked after. The previous owner had treated it (probably waxoyl).

Unofficially, he said it was more than likely mine would just need treatment, but he conformed that if there was a problem it would be shipped to Spain for 6 weeks for a new chassis and I would get a loan of a new Nav.
 
#1,036 ·
Just popped my head under the truck and found the rear exhaust mount is completely corroded is this something I should bring up with Nissan as I have only had it back a few months after having the chassis treated. Any help would be great
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#1,037 ·
I would and to be fair looking at the area that has been treated its already rusting so what was the point? think am going to sandblast mine off and retreat it properly come summer, chances are you will get nowhere though
 
#1,039 ·
NavD40 said:
Does anybody know if this is part of the chassis or is it a bracket that is bolted on? Had a google search and not finding many pictures of the area effected.


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Just looks like a bracket to me.

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