[chris vince]

I recall another 'discussion' I had with you where YOU reckon there was nothing wrong with the D22's engines, despite thousands blowing up.
Now you reckon the weather is causing 8 year old chassis' to rot away.
Must be pretty rose tinted in your world?

 

[diggerman]

Storing a truck indoors would be pointless as it's meant to be used daily, the fecker would never dry overnight anyway, a lack of rust proofing and quality of steel in manufacturing, chassis full of holes to let damp and **** in plus the use of road salt are the reason the dam things are rotting.

 

[lookskyward1]

to be honest when you own a truck with a full rolling chassis and cant afford to store it in the garage, leaving it outside in the constant rainy UK weather, water will stay trapped all over the place and rot everything. the real problem would be if the truck was properly held in a garage and then show sings of rust. parking it outside, a chassis with so many holes for water to get trapped, no offence but you are just asking for it.

All modern vehicle manufacturers build and test their products to survive in a lot of extreme conditions (heat, cold and wet). The UK and the Republic of Ireland can be a wet place but most manufacturers take this into account with rust prevention built in at the point of manufacture. It is such a shame that Nissan have built the D40 chassis right down to the thinnest they can get away with and then fail to protect or warranty it in any way.

It would be interesting to know out of all the vehicles on the road in the UK and Ireland, how many are actually kept in the garage? I wouldn't be surprised to know it was less than 30%. As previously pointed out The Navara is a 'work' vehicle and most people would expect it to be a bit more durable than the average motorcar. Sadly this is not the case.

I will also point out that despite your assumption that it constantly rains in the UK, this is not actually the case. Yes we have a temperate climate, that sees a lot more rain than say Greece.

Finally this thread is intended to gather information about D40s that have serious chassis rust/failure. It helps no-one that you choose to blame the victims for having the brass neck to use and store their vehicles outdoors.

 

[Guest]

Finally this thread is intended to gather information about D40s that have serious chassis rust/failure. It helps no-one that you choose to blame the victims for having the brass neck to use and store their vehicles outdoors.

thats what i did, made an input that here ( and there are thousands of them here) none complains about rust. and around here not that many store them outside. the rest is raging from frequently raging everyday posters.
(build for work doesnt mean build to be parked like a Daihatsu.)

 

[Lil'Trucker!]

to be honest when you own a truck with a full rolling chassis and cant afford to store it in the garage, leaving it outside in the constant rainy UK weather, water will stay trapped all over the place and rot everything. the real problem would be if the truck was properly held in a garage and then show sings of rust. parking it outside, a chassis with so many holes for water to get trapped, no offence but you are just asking for it.

I did actually laugh at reading this

Over the years, i have owned a lot of various vehicles, from various makes and models and types, all of them have been subjected to all kinds of U.K. weather and didn't suffer any severe rusting. Many of these vehicles i owned for a long time (i always keep vehicles for too long).

On of my work vans is now 16 years old, and still in use, it has just started to rust a little on the bodywork in the last 18 months, the underneath is in very good order though.

Both the D40's i've owned (from new) showed chassis surface rust in just a matter of a few months, so i Waxoyled them as a precaution but, still cause for concern imo.

I have seen the underside of new Range Rovers show surface rust very early on too but, i haven't heard of any disintegrating like some of the D40 chassis have?

Everybody is entitled to an opinion, my own opinion is as Chris says, there must surely be a manufacturing fault for this type of corrosion to take place so quickly?

I realise that nowadays the quality of many things seem to be made from cheese or chocolate, or probably more accurately "****" as nothing seems built to last? Surely though, a pickup truck should be designed with some sort of durability in mind?

Vehicles that are located near coastal areas are known to corrode quicker than inland regardless of country but, surely a vehicle shouldn't disintegrate because it gets left out in the rain? :dunno

 

[freemansteve]

I have never parked any vehicle in a garage in the UK, nor can I think of any friend who does either, but we have had very few rust issues.

Some people swear that putting a wet vehicle in an airless garage actually promotes rust - no wind to dry the vehicle apparently...

I haven't had any vehicle in the last 20 years that got significant rust during the time I owned it.

I am however reasonably convinced that rain by itself makes little impact in terms of rusting a vehicle, but if you live in places in the UK where it is necessary to salt the roads in winter, all cars will rot faster - it's electrolytic action.

I notice that the average rainfall per month, over a year, in say Paphos, Cyprus is about 40mm while, say in Essex, it's 52mm - hardly a dramatic difference that might account for rusting, I'd say. But then it's much more fun to state unsubstantiated ideas as if they were were facts, right?

Anyway, I'm sure the D40 chassis problems will eventually be explained by the wrong grade of steel being used for a production run, or a problem with subsequent chemical treatments or paint processes.... Lets' see.

 

[quandoe]

i firmly believe that the renault has a lot to do with the problem, as of 2002 they really started to get their claws it to nissan, the manufacturing process was already set for the d22 so not a lot could be done but when the d40 arrived a lot of parts were shared and the cost cutting could begin.... as ive said before the rot issue is disgraceful and the sooner the d40 owners all get together and throw it to the media/watchdog the better..... some poor sod is gonna buy one of these vehicles and have it break in half in the smallest of accidents..... its only the media thats gonna work, just like the engine issue with the D22, the security issues with the mk7 transit, the injector problem with the ren traffic/vivaro/primastar and now the issue with VW..... vehicles problems are hot topics at the min.... i would be striking while the irons hot

 

[Hamlet]

(build for work doesnt mean build to be parked like a Daihatsu.)

What do you mean here?

 

[carts]

so I got a chance to take a quick look under the offside of mine today, here cant see much wrong.. your thoughts..

 

[chris vince]

Nice and clean, that's what happens when you live somewhere where it never rains!!!!! Ha Ha.

 

[Hamlet]

so I got a chance to take a quick look under the offside of mine today, here cant see much wrong.. your thoughts..

All looks very nice and clean under there Carts, but just to be aware, the problem seems to be coming from the inside out, but looking at how clean yours is on the outside I doubt you have anything to worry about.

 

[carts]

Nice and clean, that's what happens when you live somewhere where it never rains!!!!! Ha Ha.

Thanks, but mate when it rains here it's the worst you can imagine, honestly when it does the uk cannot compair...

 

[carts]

so I got a chance to take a quick look under the offside of mine today, here cant see much wrong.. your thoughts..

All looks very nice and clean under there Carts, but just to be aware, the problem seems to be coming from the inside out, but looking at how clean yours is on the outside I doubt you have anything to worry about.

Cheers also, trucks got 95000m on the clock, 2007 so I cannot complain and yes it goes off road from time to time...

 

[chris vince]

Nice and clean, that's what happens when you live somewhere where it never rains!!!!! Ha Ha.

Thanks, but mate when it rains here it's the worst you can imagine, honestly when it does the uk cannot compair...

That's not what I was told several posts ago!
I believe you though.

 

[carts]

[quote="chris vince":1or7j4mc]Nice and clean, that's what happens when you live somewhere where it never rains!!!!! Ha Ha.

Thanks, but mate when it rains here it's the worst you can imagine, honestly when it does the uk cannot compair...

That's not what I was told several posts ago!
I believe you though.[/quote:1or7j4mc]


The picture below was taken on the main nicosia to karnal highway on Friday... The backhoe was clearing the mud etc from the road, this is the second time in as many weeks...


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[chris vince]

There must be two Cyprus' then?
One with rust resisting rain.

 

[Guest]

maybe they didnt sell a navara to the UK but a Dacia with different badge.

 

[onlyme0666]

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Hi mate,
did you get this sorted.
Paul.

 

[freemansteve]

There must be two Cyprus' then?
One with rust resisting rain.

One might argue that UK towns are so polluted, the rain there is much more acidic, perhaps?
In the town I used live in, stone-faced buildings made of limestone are seriously dissolving, and we no longer have coal fires...

Nah, as I said, the killer is salt in the winters....

 

[seaneb]

Could you bring a group lawsuit against Nissan UK? That way you could share the cost and probably afford some pretty ****-hot lawyers between you.
Might be an idea to start a list on here of anyone that are affected and would like to do something about it?