[Carouser]

That's awful. Shafted twice, once by Nissan and again by Rustbuster that did the wok without pointing out the condition of the chassis to you.

It looks like you're going to have a long drawn out battle to get compensation.

Thanks, Lookskyward1 - it isn't the best situation to be in if I'm honest.


In fairness to Rust Buster, I think they did a pretty good job (albeit an expensive one) and they acted in good faith and in accordance with the schedule of works I gave them.

I suspect that in the event of any corrosion or perforation, they thought I had supplied the stiffening plates to fix this . Ultimately however, yes, I really wish they had raised it at the time as I would have asked them to down tools and arranged for another inspection to be carried out by Nissan (or the RAC by that time).


The problem I have is that I was willing to pay for the work to be done for peace of mind, but sadly I can't say I have much of it remaining anymore for fear that the chassis is continuing to rust away as I type despite being fully waxoyled internally AND the works might take me beyond the 12 year anti-corrosion warranty...


The other problem I have is that with the works having been carried out, where do I stand now? I only have photographic evidence and anything that the team at Rust Buster might be able to provide by way of report/feedback


The only real thing I can hang my hat on was that the visual inspection by Nissan themselves did not pick this up, and yet this is the primary spot where they corrode and crack!


I feel better that I have raised my case and it will be investigated. Whether anything will come from that is another matter...


Cheers


Carouser

 

[Logo]

http://www.attwoodsolicitors.co.uk/helping-nissan-pick-up-owners-get-compensation/

Is anybody involved in this group action?

 

[Carouser]

http://www.attwoodsolicitors.co.uk/helping-nissan-pick-up-owners-get-compensation/

Is anybody involved in this group action?

Not yet, but depending upon how things progress with my case, I think I'll be dropping them a line to register my interest.

 

[fulltimer]

Mine looks good on the outside cos I've brushed/undersealed it more or less from new. I'd like to know how the RAC, or ANYBODY for that matter can possibly carry out a visual inspection and pass a chassis without the use of boroscopes or internal cameras? It's just not possible.
Given what I've seen with my own eyes, I'm happy to tow my 3.6 ton 5th wheel up to Ayr in a few weeks but once up there, I'm gonna apply for an inspection and if I find that it really is just an outer surface visual, I think I might try and find a local boroscope inspector.
Can't cost that much for a couple of hours work and I wanna know what's going on inside before I start proofing the inside.

 

[Carouser]

Mine looks good on the outside cos I've brushed/undersealed it more or less from new. I'd like to know how the RAC, or ANYBODY for that matter can possibly carry out a visual inspection and pass a chassis without the use of boroscopes or internal cameras? It's just not possible.
Given what I've seen with my own eyes, I'm happy to tow my 3.6 ton 5th wheel up to Ayr in a few weeks but once up there, I'm gonna apply for an inspection and if I find that it really is just an outer surface visual, I think I might try and find a local boroscope inspector.
Can't cost that much for a couple of hours work and I wanna know what's going on inside before I start proofing the inside.

Agreed, Fulltimer, and the visual inspection is just that! The 'report' I received from Desira Nissan states the following:


"VHC
Complimentary Visual Vehicle Health Check


WAR
Carried out visual check of chassis and confrimed [SIC] chassis is in a condition where as it would pass a MOT test - No fault found for chassis corrosion."


So it basically counts for nothing.

On the basis mine was caked in mud at the time and it hadn't been removed, is a clear indication that the hole was covered and out of sight so would never have been picked up as part of a visual inspection only.

It only became evident when Rustbuster removed my canopy and truck bed and cleaned it all down. I just wished they had told me at the time...


I subsequently bought a borescope off eBay - £60 including 3m camera cable. It's a decent little unit which will record both video footage and take still photographs. Camera lens has LEDs and you can vary the illumination.


It was a must for me going forwards to ensure the inside of the chassis was monitored and maintained.



Carouser

 

[fulltimer]

...............I subsequently bought a borescope off eBay - £60 including 3m camera cable. It's a decent little unit which will record both video footage and take still photographs. Camera lens has LEDs and you can vary the illumination.

It was a must for me going forwards to ensure the inside of the chassis was monitored and maintained.

Carouser

Hey, that's not a bad price. Might do that myself as I have a pathological distrust of dealers and so called experts!
Got a link please?

 

[Carouser]

Hey, that's not a bad price. Might do that myself as I have a pathological distrust of dealers and so called experts!
Got a link please?

By all means...


This is the one I purchased – paid a little extra for the longer camera cable.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-7-LCD-Waterproof-Flexible-Inspection-Video-Camera-Endoscope-Borescope-w-6Leds-/262551738487?hash=item3d214d9877:g:cQ0AAOSwbsBXmbtt


If the link doesn’t work, search eBay for the following item number: 262551738487


It came from a Chinese seller (as one might expect), but don’t be unnecessarily concerned. It arrived in good time (most products are actually based in the UK having been shipped over months ago), it was well packaged and it feels like a quality bit of kit.

Having researched borescopes, you’d be looking at £280 for the Bosch-equivalent at Screwfix.


What I should have added is that you also need a Micro SD memory card to capture any of the video footage or photo stills.


If you’re anything like me, you’ll have some of these lurking in a ‘man drawer’, down the back of sofas, in some gadgets you’ve not used in yonks, or perhaps in the wife’s smart phone...


Otherwise they are cheap enough now for a decent capacity card – think I paid £12 for mine for several GBs of space.


I guess you're looking at an investment of circa £80 all told, but then you don't just have to use if for the Nav's chassis. I've found all sorts lurking around the house in hidden voids, including a three sets of the wife's Tweezerman tweezers (£25 a pop) so it's nearly paid for itself already...

Let me know how you get on or need any further advice.

Cheers




Carouser

 

[Carouser]

Hey, that's not a bad price. Might do that myself as I have a pathological distrust of dealers and so called experts!
Got a link please?

Here you go Fulltimer, I managed to find some images - stills taken of a dark void behind our bathroom sink unit.

Having lost several items down the back of it, I had assumed they were laying at the foot of the unit, so cut the back of the cupboard out and had a good root around.

Alas, I found nothing; like the bathroom equivalent of the Bermuda Triangle. It even had me concerned that my wife was simply angling for a fourth pair of Tweezermans...


So, having invested in the eBay borescope, I opened it in eager anticipation of what I might find, like a ten year old boy in the late 80s receiving a Nintendo Super NES for Christmas.


Suffice to say, one of the floorboards had been cut away where it met the skirting leaving an even darker, deeper void, naked to the human eye.


Probing away with the borescope revealed the Holy Grail of bathroom utensils...yes, our daughter's long, lost toothbrush, at least one pair of the wife's Tweezermans and a pair of nail scissors.


Not a bad haul if you were a bathroom bandit...

 

[Uselescrapytwit]

Yes yes yes all very interesting but Show me the inside of your chassis!

I am interested in that ..... lol

 

[fulltimer]

By all means...


This is the one I purchased – paid a little extra for the longer camera cable.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-7-LCD-Waterproof-Flexible-Inspection-Video-Camera-Endoscope-Borescope-w-6Leds-/262551738487?hash=item3d214d9877:g:cQ0AAOSwbsBXmbtt

Carouser

That's excellent, definitely having a go at that.
Thanks for the link mate.

 

[Carouser]

Yes yes yes all very interesting but Show me the inside of your chassis!

I am interested in that ..... lol

Yes, fair point...I was getting a little off-topic there! I have just popped out and stuck the borescope in my chassis and here are the results.


Bearing in mind this was a quick exercise and you are not able to digitally focus the camera, having to rely on a steady hand and trying not to get to close to the chassis walls.


Using a borescope takes some practise in terms of getting the angles right as you continue to probe so these photos aren't the best examples.

With regards to my chassis, on the whole it doesn't look too bad internally - no obvious signs of flaking, BUT there is clearly some rust still present which is concerning given the treatment I had done.


Guess I'll be purchasing a compressor in due course and a huge can of waxoyl or taking it back for further, complimentary treatment (depending upon how my case with NCS goes)...


[Sigh]


Cheers


Carouser

 

[Carouser]

That's excellent, definitely having a go at that.
Thanks for the link mate.

Welcome, Dude. I've just posted some photographs of the inside of my chassis using the borescope.

Not the best examples but I didn't exactly take my time and using a borescope takes some practise.


Cheers


Carouser

 

[dad of three]

The sun video turn up on Facebook last week. The funny thing is a lot of my friends are messaging me to say i better look at my chassis. They find hard to believe when i tell them a check it and treated it last summer, cause they never heard of the chassis issue before. I'm glad sun have reported the story so the general public are aware of this issue. Maybe now nissan will do more about it !!!!

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[Carouser]

The sun video turn up on Facebook last week. The funny thing is a lot of my friends are messaging me to say i better look at my chassis. They find hard to believe when i tell them a check it and treated it last summer, cause they never heard of the chassis issue before. I'm glad sun have reported the story so the general public are aware of this issue. Maybe now nissan will do more about it !!!!

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I know and totally agree. I know that the issue hasn't had the media attention or the column inches it probably deserves (until now) but the problem came to light over a year ago and it still surprises me the number of people and owners that still aren't aware.

I received a Facebook alert yesterday that one of my friends had applied to join the Nissan Navara Snapped Chassis Group. I dropped her a line to ask if she currently owned a Nav and she responded that she didn't but was looking to buy one and wasn't aware of the problem until it hit the press.


Like you, I'm hoping there will be some pressure for Nissan to formally recall rather than review on a case by case basis.


It could make a difference for us, but I do feel bad for those who may have lost out before the media involvement, or worse, those who scrapped their vehicles for nominal value due to chassis rot before it became an epidemic.

 

[dad of three]

I know and totally agree. I know that the issue hasn't had the media attention or the column inches it probably deserves (until now) but the problem came to light over a year ago and it still surprises me the number of people and owners that still aren't aware.

I received a Facebook alert yesterday that one of my friends had applied to join the Nissan Navara Snapped Chassis Group. I dropped her a line to ask if she currently owned a Nav and she responded that she didn't but was looking to buy one and wasn't aware of the problem until it hit the press.


Like you, I'm hoping there will be some pressure for Nissan to formally recall rather than review on a case by case basis.


It could make a difference for us, but I do feel bad for those who may have lost out before the media involvement, or worse, those who scrapped their vehicles for nominal value due to chassis rot before it became an epidemic.

Well said mate. ☺

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[gyislander2]

Welcome, Dude. I've just posted some photographs of the inside of my chassis using the borescope.

Not the best examples but I didn't exactly take my time and using a borescope takes some practise.


Cheers


Carouser

I was amazed to find via the facebook page that a borescope isn't used in the inspection process which seems nuts as the issue appears to be rusting from inside to out. That questions the faith to be put in an "its ok" report. Mine has a hole and slight split by one cab mounting and useing a borescope looks pretty flaky in some areas. Will be interesting to see the inspectors report when I get one.

 

[Carouser]

I was amazed to find via the facebook page that a borescope isn't used in the inspection process which seems nuts as the issue appears to be rusting from inside to out. That questions the faith to be put in an "its ok" report. Mine has a hole and slight split by one cab mounting and useing a borescope looks pretty flaky in some areas. Will be interesting to see the inspectors report when I get one.

I know - it's an absolute joke, right? My report from Nissan clearly states twice that it was a visual inspection. Nothing more. It also claims it would have passed an MOT - surely the MOT test would be more involved than simply taking a look? I appreciate MOT testers can't go knocking the hell out of a chassis with a screwdriver anymore but I'm willing to bet my bile duct that it's more than just visual.


Sorry to get all gynaecological here but if a woman goes in to have her lady bits checked, all sorts of medical paraphernalia is used. The Doctors and Consultants don't take one look on the outside and say "you're good to go".


So how on earth can an inspection of a chassis when they are corroding inside-out be carried out with any certainty unless a borescope is used?


I accept my analogy isn't a good one and I don't mean to offend - the wellbeing of a woman is clearly more important than a piece of steel box-section, but you get my drift...

 

[17743]

:grin2:I can just see it now Mechanic rolling round on the floor clutching what used to be his nuts after trying to inspect a Arabic lady called Navara

 

[gyislander2]

I took mine to my local garage who say the hole I have is a fail .... thats on a 2 second visual check. Rest of chassis looks ok on the surface but only because I chipped and buffed off all the flakey surface rust and undersealed it last year. Tank strap did break off last year too at chassis and is now roughly rewelded (difficult to access) with a ratchet strap back up.

 

[lookskyward1]

Another one bites the dust. Just had MOT and a hole has been found on the offside inner face of the chassis near the exhaust silencer.

I've just raised a case with Nissan and expect a call back within 48 hours. :nailbiting